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EPISODE · Mar 1, 2026 · 2H 13M

The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

from American Alchemy with Jesse Michels · host Jesse Michels

Our American Alchemist this week is Gary McKinnon. Gary McKinnon hacked into 97 U.S. military and government sites in the early 2000s from his girlfriend's aunt's flat in London. NSA at Fort Meade. DISA. Army, Navy, Air Force networks. NASA. All accessed with a Perl script scanning for blank passwords on a 56K dial-up connection while smoking weed in a dressing gown at 4 AM. He was not a professional hacker. He was a guy from Falkirk, Scotland, who grew up near Bonnybridge, one of the UK's most active UFO hotspots, who had read the Disclosure Project book and wanted to know for himself. What he found inside those systems, and what the U.S. government did to him for finding it, is one of the most consequential stories in modern UFO history. Gary McKinnon’s Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/fabliciousuk/?etsrc=sdt Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! ExpressVPN: Get 4 months free at https://www.expressvpn.com/americanalchemy Quo: Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.Quo.com/JESSE -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w  -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤  https://whop.com/jessemichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@jessemichelsclips Apply For Jobs ➤ [email protected] Sponsor Inquiries ➤ [email protected] Media Inquiries ➤ [email protected] Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 4:00 ExpressVPN 6:29 Quo 8:29 Gary’s Background 11:15 Accessing Sensitive Sites 18:12 The Solar Warden Myth 21:11 Pursuing Free Energy 25:06 The Spacecraft Discovery 27:17 Airbrushed Evidence 33:19 The Cigar-Shaped Object 34:15 Donna Hare 36:42 Tic-Tac 43:39 Fast Walkers and Satellites 45:23 The Office of Naval Intelligence 55:11 Non-Terrestrial Officers 1:03:52 Space Supply Chain 1:04:42 Manufacturing in Zero Gravity 1:06:08 Super Soldier 1:07:27 Mysterious Experiences 1:08:15 The Implant 1:12:53 Secrets of Space Programs 1:15:50 The Air Force's Hidden Operations 1:17:48 Ben Rich's Revelations 1:20:44 Alien Bases on Mars? 1:22:17 The Stargate Connection 1:25:07 The Role of the Navy 1:26:14 Exploring Anti-Gravity 1:32:34 Townsend Brown's Influence 1:39:16 Free Energy Discoveries 1:45:09 A Deep Dive into Physics 1:56:40 The Extradition Saga 2:02:03 The Conspiracy Unfolds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our American Alchemist this week is Gary McKinnon. Gary McKinnon hacked into 97 U.S. military and government sites in the early 2000s from his girlfriend's aunt's flat in London. NSA at Fort Meade. DISA. Army, Navy, Air Force networks. NASA. All accessed with a Perl script scanning for blank passwords on a 56K dial-up connection while smoking weed in a dressing gown at 4 AM. He was not a professional hacker. He was a guy from Falkirk, Scotland, who grew up near Bonnybridge, one of the UK's most active UFO hotspots, who had read the Disclosure Project book and wanted to know for himself. What he found inside those systems, and what the U.S. government did to him for finding it, is one of the most consequential stories in modern UFO history. Gary McKinnon’s Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/fabliciousuk/?etsrc=sdt Sign Up With Our Sponsors Below For Exclusive Alchemy Deals! ExpressVPN: Get 4 months free at https://www.expressvpn.com/americanalchemy Quo: Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.Quo.com/JESSE -------------------------- Support Our Other Projects Below! Grab Your American Alchemy Merch Here ➤ https://www.americanalchemymerch.com/ Join The American Alchemy Magazine Here ➤ https://americanalchemymagazine.substack.com/ Subscribe To Our Clips Channel (10 Minute Highlights!) ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@UC8ZKTXN9trt5dhixz6b6l6w  -------------------------- JOIN OUR WHOP (Early Drops/Ad Free) ➤  https://whop.com/jessemichels Discord ➤https://discord.gg/crHc44m3kF Instagram ➤ https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial TikTok ➤ https://www.tiktok.com/@itsjessemichels X ➤ https://twitter.com/AlchemyAmerican Spotify ➤ https://tinyurl.com/jessemichelsspotify Clips Channel ➤ https://www.youtube.com/@jessemichelsclips Apply For Jobs ➤ [email protected] Sponsor Inquiries ➤ [email protected] Media Inquiries ➤ [email protected] Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 4:00 ExpressVPN 6:29 Quo 8:29 Gary’s Background 11:15 Accessing Sensitive Sites 18:12 The Solar Warden Myth 21:11 Pursuing Free Energy 25:06 The Spacecraft Discovery 27:17 Airbrushed Evidence 33:19 The Cigar-Shaped Object 34:15 Donna Hare 36:42 Tic-Tac 43:39 Fast Walkers and Satellites 45:23 The Office of Naval Intelligence 55:11 Non-Terrestrial Officers 1:03:52 Space Supply Chain 1:04:42 Manufacturing in Zero Gravity 1:06:08 Super Soldier 1:07:27 Mysterious Experiences 1:08:15 The Implant 1:12:53 Secrets of Space Programs 1:15:50 The Air Force's Hidden Operations 1:17:48 Ben Rich's Revelations 1:20:44 Alien Bases on Mars? 1:22:17 The Stargate Connection 1:25:07 The Role of the Navy 1:26:14 Exploring Anti-Gravity 1:32:34 Townsend Brown's Influence 1:39:16 Free Energy Discoveries 1:45:09 A Deep Dive into Physics 1:56:40 The Extradition Saga 2:02:03 The Conspiracy Unfolds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Our American Alchemist this week is Gary McKinnon. Gary McKinnon hacked into 97 U.S. military and government sites in the early 2000s from his girlfriend's aunt's flat in London. NSA at Fort Meade. DISA. Army, Navy, Air Force networks. NASA. All...

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