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The Mayflower Compact: The Document 156 Years Ahead of the Declaration | Lawrence Reed

from The Jenny Beth Show · host Jenny Beth Martin, Larry Reed

Lawrence W. Reed is president emeritus of the Foundation for Economic Education, where he served twelve years as president. Before that he ran the Mackinac Center for Public Policy in Michigan for twenty-one years, led a think tank in Idaho for three, and taught economics and history at Northwood University for seven. History is his first love and economics a close second, which is the shape of all nine of his books. The newest is Born of Ideas: How Principles, Faith, and Courage Forged America. Jenny Beth Martin is the host of The Jenny Beth Show, co-founder of the Tea Party movement, and Chairman of Tea Party Patriots Action. Key topics: The Mayflower Compact of 1620, and why it is the first governing agreement in world history that no monarch signed The fifty strangers the investors put on the ship, and the storm that made the compact necessary The Flushing Remonstrance of 1657, written by people who were not Quakers on behalf of Quakers Congress could not tax, so Congress printed, and by 1780 the continental dollar bought nothing The British warship that anchored off Staten Island and ran counterfeit American currency ashore How the best ideas of the Enlightenment and the Great Awakening arrived at the same conclusion at the same time Why the Boston Tea Party was never an argument about the amount of the tax The French Revolution began fourteen years after ours and went somewhere else entirely The sin of presentism, and the Wright brothers test for judging people of the past Nathan Hale at twenty-one, disguised as a Dutch schoolteacher Kosciuszko, Pulaski, Salomon, and a nineteen-year-old Lafayette who broke his own country's law to get here Mercy Otis Warren, the conscience of the American Revolution Thomas Paine, a bankrupt corset maker, writes Common Sense in January 1776 Esther Reed raises three hundred thousand dollars in private voluntary funds for the troops Twenty-seven American ships against two hundred fifty British ones, and the letters of marque John Witherspoon, the only clergyman to sign the Declaration of Independence, who saved Princeton twice Why the founders gave us a republic with democratic elements and not a democracy Timestamps: 00:18 — Meet Lawrence Reed: Foundation for Economic Education, the Mackinac Center, nine books 01:57 — Born of Ideas: from the Mayflower Compact in 1620 to the Bill of Rights in 1791 03:17 — The Mayflower Compact, and the first governing agreement in history without a monarch 06:59 — The religious Magna Carta: the Flushing Remonstrance of 1657 09:57 — Congress could not tax, so Congress printed: the continental dollar collapse 12:36 — The British warship Phoenix and the counterfeit American currency 14:57 — The Enlightenment, the Great Awakening, and the Boston Tea Party 20:40 — Why the French Revolution went the other way 23:58 — Slavery, presentism, and what actually made America exceptional 29:43 — Nathan Hale at twenty-one 32:31 — Kosciuszko, Pulaski, Salomon, and Lafayette 35:19 — Mercy Otis Warren, the conscience of the American Revolution 37:31 — Thomas Paine and Common Sense 39:57 — Joseph and Esther Reed of Pennsylvania 43:28 — How Washington won a fight he kept losing 47:47 — Black Americans and Native Americans in the Revolution 52:20 — Twenty-seven American ships against two hundred fifty British ones 54:51 — John Witherspoon saves Princeton twice 57:16 — A republic with democratic elements, not a democracy Links mentioned: jennybethshow.com, teapartypatriots.org, Born of Ideas by Lawrence W. Reed, the Foundation for Economic Education, the National Archives correspondence between Esther Reed and General Washington.

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The Mayflower Compact was signed the day before the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth, and it is the first agreement on governing between two groups of people in the history of the world that no monarch signed. Lawrence Reed calls it the most meaningful early benchmark in the American story, because everything the Declaration of Independence said so beautifully 156 years later was already there in 1620: mutual consent, toleration, no king. Lawrence W. Reed is president emeritus of the Foundation for Economic Education, where he served twelve years as president. He ran the Mackinac Center for Public Policy for twenty-one years and taught economics and history at Northwood University. Born of Ideas: How Principles, Faith, and Courage Forged America is his ninth book, and it runs from the Mayflower Compact in 1620 through the Bill of Rights in 1791. Jenny Beth Martin and Lawrence Reed also cover the Flushing Remonstrance of 1657, when townspeople who were not Quakers defied a governor's order to shun the Quakers. The continental dollar Congress printed into worthlessness by 1780, and the British warship off Staten Island that counterfeited American currency by the crate. The sin of presentism and the Wright brothers test. Mercy Otis Warren, whose history Thomas Jefferson required his entire cabinet to read. And why the founders handed us a republic with democratic elements rather than a democracy. This conversation is the lead-in to a four-part series on economics with Lawrence Reed beginning next week. More at jennybethshow.com and teapartypatriots.org.

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