The Messy Middle

In the season's first episode, Jon Strassner talks with industrial designer Brian Graham. We talk about doing the best we can and learning how to operate in the messy middle, where our expectations of perfection are often left unmet. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We can't be perfect, so let's just try to do the best we can,and in an effort to protect our own sanity, let that be enough for now.

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