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EPISODE · Mar 25, 2026 · 40 MIN

The Messy Reality of Shipping Helm 4 with Andrew Block

from GR-OSS OUT Podcast · host G-Research Open Source Software

Tabitha sits down with Andrew Block, Distinguished Architect at Red Hat and maintainer of Helm — the package manager powering Kubernetes deployments worldwide — to talk about what it really took to ship Helm 4. They cover the 12-month journey to a major release, what got left on the cutting room floor, how the team nearly broke a huge chunk of the community with one dependency change, and why Andy thinks open source is one of the most powerful forces for bringing people together — regardless of what's happening in the world. They also get into the bigger questions: maintainer burnout, the role AI is starting to play in open source workflows, and what it means to build software that outlasts the hype cycle. If you use Helm — or you care about the humans behind the tools you depend on — this one's worth your time. Find Helm on GitHub, or join the community on Kubernetes Slack in helm-users or #helm-dev. Developer meetings run every Thursday at 12:30 ET. G-Research is hiring in Dallas, TX and London, UK! Apply at https://gresearch.com/vacancies. For a video version of this podcast, check out https://youtu.be/mVKrrWOpMYM. The GR-OSS OUT Podcast is produced by Ben Wiley.Special Guest: Andrew Block.

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