The Most Underrated Chain: Celo’s Surprising Traction Around the World | Marek Olszewski

Celo is quietly powering real-world payments at global scale. In this episode, David and Ryan sit down with Marek Olszewski, CEO of cLabs, to unpack how Celo became a fast, low-cost payments layer used for remittances, savings, onchain FX, and identity across emerging markets. They explore why Celo stayed focused on peer-to-peer payments while others chased trends, how Opera’s MiniPay onboarded hundreds of thousands of daily users, and why stablecoins are reshaping global finance from the ground up. The conversation spans onchain FX, proof of personhood with Self.xyz, Ethereum’s L2 future, and why fast, cheap payments, not hype, may be crypto’s real unlock. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- 🔮POLYMARKET | #1 PREDICTION MARKET https://bankless.cc/polymarket-podcast ⚡ EUPHORIA | REAL-TIME ONE-TAP TRADING https://bankless.cc/euphoria 🏅BITGET TRADFI | TRADE GOLD WITH USDT https://bankless.cc/bitget 👑BANKLESS PREMIUM | AD-FREE & BONUS EPISODES https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium 🎯THE DEFI REPORT | ONCHAIN INSIGHTS https://bankless.cc/TDR-pro 💰ICO WATCH | UPCOMING PUBLIC TOKEN SALES https://bankless.cc/ico-watch --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Celo’s Origin Story and Design Philosophy 5:18 The Long Bet on P2P Payments 17:19 700,000 Daily Users: The Data Behind the Narrative 22:11 MiniPay: Global Venmo Built on Celo 30:28 Solving the Last-Mile Banking Problem 37:36 Celo x Opera partnership 40:37 Stablecoins, FX, and the Rise of Onchain Forex 46:53 Perpetuals for FX: UpDown.xyz 49:37 Open Finance vs. Governments and the Battle for the Payments Stack 59:13 Why Celo Chose Ethereum L2 Over an L1 Path 1:06:02 Self.xyz and Proof of Personhood 1:14:06 Putting It All Together: Celo’s Endgame --- RESOURCES Marek Olszewski https://x.com/marek_ Celo https://celo.org/ --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures