The Mystery of Presence and the Art of Messy Healing

In this episode, Angie Payne and Amy Monea dive into the profound mystery of how they seem to "just know" what we need, even when we haven’t found the words ourselves. Drawing from 25 years of experience and personal vulnerability, they explore why the journey of healing is rarely a "pretty" process and why self-compassion is often the most difficult, yet transformative, work we can do.Through stories of "stage four jerk" horses and the challenges of setting human boundaries, Angie and Amy discuss the power of showing up, the necessity of community, and why asking for help is the ultimate act of deservingness. Whether you are navigating the cycles of shame or learning how to get "bigger" in your own life, this conversation invites you to honor the messy, creative artwork of your own growth.In This Episode, You’ll Explore:The Mystery of "How They Know": Reflecting on the intuitive connection between horses and humans that science is still trying to catch up to.Healing Beyond the "Pretty" Narrative: Why real transformation is a messy, creative process rather than a perfectly scripted journal entry.The Cycle of Shame and Outbursts: Understanding how trauma-driven reactions can lead to self-validation of negative beliefs and how to break the loop.Compassion as Deservingness: Why making the first phone call or booking a session is the initial step in believing you deserve to feel better.The "Stage Four Jerk" Lesson: How a difficult horse named Romeo taught the power of being "big and clear" without being emotional.Communication vs. Indignation: Why we can’t be angry at others for breaching boundaries we never actually communicated.Community vs. Individualism: Reclaiming the truth that we aren't meant to do life or healing in isolation.May the horse always bring you home.Follow Mindful HumanshipInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulhumanship/Mindful Humanship Book: https://a.co/d/96gsBL1Follow the Hosts Angie Payne🔗 Website: https://www.equineenrichment.com🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/equineenrichmentAmy Monea🔗 Website: https://www.heardwellness.com🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heardwellne55/