EPISODE · Sep 26, 2025 · 49 MIN
The New ISO Standard for L&D and Goal-Based Learning
from #IDIODC Instructional Designers In Offices Drinking Coffee · host David Vance, Chris Van Wingerden, Paul Schneider
Join Dave Vance, architect of the groundbreaking ISO 30437 standard for L&D metrics, as he reveals why the first comprehensive measurement framework is a game-changer for L&D leaders.Dave shares his take on today's obsession with role/skills-based learning — and why this tunnel vision could be sabotaging your L&D impact. As an industry thought leader and former Fortune 100 CLO, he'll argue that even perfectly executed role-based learning falls short without goal-based measurement driving the strategy.Tune in to learn why you need both approaches working together to deliver maximum business impact and produce the results that matter to executive leadership._________Dr. Dave Vance is a renowned learning and development strategist who founded Caterpillar University and served as its President and Chief Learning Officer. He co-led the development of ISO 30437, the first global standard for L&D metrics, and now advises Fortune 100 companies through the ROI Institute.A former CLO of the Year award winner, Dave blends academic rigor with real-world enterprise experience to help organizations build measurement frameworks that drive measurable business impact. He is a sought-after speaker, author, and thought leader on goal-based learning, quality assurance systems, and performance-driven L&D strategy. Brought to you by the dominKnow | ONE Platform - develop, scale, and deliver learning that maximizes employee value.
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Discover how the world's first ISO standard for L&D metrics (ISO 30437) transforms measurement from overwhelming data collection into a strategic weapon that proves business impact, and why skills-based learning without goal-based measurement is career suicide for L&D leaders.
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