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EPISODE · Jul 28, 2025 · 36 MIN

The NEW ROI: Valuing What the Balance Sheet Ignores

from Scaling Up, Not Giving Up · host Richard Lee

You’ve heard it before: “Our people are our greatest asset.”But if that’s true, why don’t they show up on the balance sheet?In this episode, I’m joined by Dave Bookbinder — business valuation expert, best-selling author, and host of Behind the Numbers. Dave is on a mission to shift how we think about business value — and prove that culture, empathy, and leadership are more than “soft stuff.” They’re strategic drivers of growth and equity value.We explore why most M&A deals fall short of promised synergies, how culture shows up in your valuation (even if it’s not a line item), and why your star performer might be quietly sabotaging your exit plans.🔍 What We CoverWhy your most valuable assets are invisible on your financialsThe Tony the Tiger case study: homegrown IP vs acquired intangiblesWhy most M&A deals fail — and what human capital has to do with itCulture change as a valuation strategy (and how long it really takes)Toxic employees: the hidden cost even your CFO is missingFounder dependency: the risk that tanks your exitWhat empathy has to do with EBITDAThe three people-metrics Dave wishes every annual report includedDave’s now-famous quote that’s been shared around the world🔗 Connect with Dave📚 The NEW ROI series and A Valuation Toolbox🎧 Behind The Numbers podcast💼 LinkedIn – Dave Bookbinder✨ Quote to Remember“The value of a business is a function of how well the financial capital and the intellectual capital are managed by the human capital. You’d better get the human capital part right.” — Dave Bookbinder🔗 Links & ResourcesVisit: richard-lee.co.ukSubscribe: Scaling Up, Not Giving Up on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

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