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EPISODE · Jun 5, 2026 · 1H 18M

The Next Level Game: How to Stop Climbing the Wrong Ladder | Ep 981

from Outlier's Edge Podcast with Niiamah Ashong

"You may not be any of the individual ingredients, but you're the pot. If there was no pot, they're just separate ingredients. You can't make a stew, you can't make a gumbo, you can't make anything from it without the pot." Join Niiamah Ashong and guest Palmer as Niiamah introduces the Next Level Game — the difference between getting better at where you are and stepping into where you're meant to be. What unfolds is a man discovering his creative gift isn't writing or directing, it's bringing the pieces together.What Palmer walks away with- A reframe from creator to convener- Fear as compass, not warning- Permission to lead without credentials- The 500x leverage of lifting others- A first action: sign up for the writing class- A practice: contribute in any way, three times- A vote of confidence in his own voice- The pot metaphor as his identity anchorWelcome to the Outlier's Edge Podcast, hosted by Niiamah Ashong, Founder of Outlier's Edge and Sherpa of the World of Difference. On this podcast, you'll join other high-performing unconventional leaders and entrepreneurs (aka Outliers) as they talk about leveraging what makes them different to make a difference in the world. Timestamps:00:00 — Too Much May and self-claiming03:23 — The Next Level Game07:33 — Conventional success, achieved11:00 — Fear of instability17:21 — Never ending truth19:31 — Dead Poets Society reveals it27:14 — Honoring the heart31:11 — Jump in, contribute anyway48:50 — The pot, not the ingredients57:54 — 500x versus 2.5x1:11:14 — Sign up for the writing classFollow Outlier's Edge Socials:Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Youtube | WebsiteEpisode Originally Published on 8/20/2019

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"You may not be any of the individual ingredients, but you're the pot. If there was no pot, they're just separate ingredients. You can't make a stew, you can't make a gumbo, you can't make anything from it without the pot." Join Niiamah Ashong and...

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