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EPISODE · Oct 23, 2025 · 16 MIN

The Next Phase of Marketing Automation: Lessons from Dreamforce and HubSpot

from The Marketing Automation Moment Podcast · host Napier Partnership Limited

In this episode of the Marketing Automation Moment podcast, Hannah Kelly and Mike Maynard explore whether marketing automation as we know it is truly over. They break down Salesforce’s decision to cut 4,000 support roles while adding 5,000 sales positions, share key takeaways from Dreamforce, including AI agents and deeper Slack integration, and take a closer look at HubSpot’s new loop marketing concept. The episode wraps up with guidance on recognizing when a campaign isn’t working and how to adjust.   About Napier Napier is a PR-lead, full service marketing agency that specialises in the B2B technology sector. We work closely with our clients to build campaigns, focusing on achieving results that have a significant positive impact on their businesses and which, above all, ensure maximum return on their investment.   About Mike Maynard Mike is the Managing Director/CEO of Napier, a PR and marketing agency for B2B technology companies. A self-confessed geek who loves talking about technology, he believes that combining the measurement, accountability and innovation that he learnt as an engineer with a passion for communicating ensures Napier delivers great campaigns and tangible return on investment.   About Hannah Kelly Hannah is the Head of Business Development and Marketing at Napier and leads on pitching, proposal writing, lead nurturing, email marketing, social media and content creation. Hannah joined the Napier team back in 2017 as a Marketing Specialist after completing her degree in Marketing and Communications, and her role focuses on developing new relationships with potential clients.   Time Stamps 00:00:00 - Introduction to Marketing Automation Moment Podcast 00:01:10 - Active Campaign's Bold Statement on Marketing Automation 00:03:00 - Salesforce's Controversial Staffing Changes 00:05:50 - Insights from Dreamforce: AI and Slack 00:08:06 - HubSpot's Loop Marketing Concept 00:11:01 - When to Give Up on a Campaign: Insights and Tips 00:15:27 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts   Follow Mike and Hannah: Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/ Hannah Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-kelly-b0706a107/?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAABriH7cBjOKakLTry2oZpPzoqKYXgLp0ttY Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/ Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/ If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to our podcast for more discussions about the latest in Marketing Automation and connect with us on social media to stay updated on upcoming episodes. We’d also appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favourite podcast platform. Want more? Check out Napier’s other podcast – Marketing B2B Technology: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/marketing-b2b-technology/id1485417724

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