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EPISODE · Aug 17, 2026 · 54 MIN

The No Treason Podcast Ep. 43: How Robbers Became Governments

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Jonathan Drake shifts gears into chapter three of Spooner's Science of Justice, trading the tight logical if then structure for a narrative history lesson on how despotic government actually got started. Spoiler, it was not a noble experiment gone wrong. Spooner traces a direct line from ancient bands of robbers plundering agrarian farmers, to slaveholders realizing chains were bad optics, to the modern representative government that convinces everyone to vote for their own subjection. Expect Vikings compared unfavorably to senatorial candidates, a breakdown of how legislation has always just been the paperwork criminals use to divide their spoils, and a preview of Spooner's next essay on poverty and debt, which ties directly into his surprisingly Bitcoin adjacent monetary theory. Jon also weighs in on a current Supreme Court case and gives a candid nod to his own dip experiment gone wrong in Sudan.

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