The 'not the welfare bill' episode

This week, the programme is about cute disabled kids, how attitudes to disabled people are different in New York, kettles, faces, headlines, hackathons and a brilliant woman who's bringing education to kids spending time in a hospice in Wales. Paul Carter joins Emma Tracey in a show where we've deliberately edited out all the stuff about that welfare bill for the sake of all our sanities. It'll be back again soon enough though. It's disability like in real life, on a podcast, from the BBC. You're welcome. PRODUCERS: Adele Armstrong and Alex Collins RECORDING AND MIX: Dave O'Neill SERIES PRODUCER: Beth Rose EDITOR: Damon Rose