The one with podcasters Bryan Ruiz and Jon Ruiz

This week, Gavin is half a century, David loves cakes, Gavin's kids are faking it, we announce our Halloween party cohosted with the Queer Family Podcast, we rank the top 3 witches, and this week we are joined by "biological twin cousins" Bryan and Jon Ruiz, who are hosts of their own gay podcast, "Out Loud and Laughing," who laugh with us about having kids, not having kids, being gay, Florida avocado toast, and why the second kid is always the nightmare. Questions? Comments? Rants? Raves? Send them to [email protected], or you can DM us anywhere @GaytriarchsPodcast