The other side of the (Madam) Heap

In this stream of conscoiusness in the form of waves of sound I found out about the Co founder of Madam Heap, the ying to Mandy Dore's Yang Dr Carrie Hayward's path way to clinical Psychology and then bringing those principles to a broader audience through Mindfulness @ Madam Heap. We also chat about the nature and definitions of Anxiety's and Depression's as we try to get behind the stigma, the social conditioning and mis-understandings concerned with the epidemic of our time.