The Patrick Madrid Show: April 13, 2026 - Hour 2

Patrick confronts the tornado swirling around Donald Trump’s public attack against Pope Leo, pressures listeners to declare their true loyalty, and stirs a cauldron of reactions around faith and politics colliding. Callers erupt, some wounded, others defiant, filling the air with anguish over diplomacy, the Pope’s peace pleas, and the blurred lines where Catholic identity fuses with partisan fervor. Questions ricochet, loyalties fracture, and the Rorschach test of belief shatters comfortable silence.   Camilla - I am a little sad by what I am hearing from the callers. People are not acknowledging what they are seeing. How can people who are Catholic choose the world over God? (02:03) Sharon - President Trump and the Pope: I am so glad people are calling knowing what Trump is like. Trump thinks he is above everyone. (07:56) Bob - Your conversation is one-sided. I wouldn’t defend the President, but Pope Leo made the first salvo. (10:41) Dennis (email) – There are powerful people behind the scenes who are gleeful that Trump’s words may lead to a fracturing of his own support. (21:32) Kyle (email) - Trump has lost my support, but not my vote. John – (email) - President Trump has been in politics since 2015 and it sad to continue hearing how ill-informed the public continues to be about who he is and how he operates. Grace - It seems to me that Pope Leo started this 'War' against Trump. I am not hearing him going after Russian Orthodox and War in Ukraine. How about Canada and euthanasia? (27:38) Laurie - People need to acknowledge that Iran killed 50,000 of its own people. (35:15) Chris - You are not being fair about framing this issue. The Pope should stay in his lane. (38:49) Joseph - I commend how you are handling this. As Catholics, should we continue to enter into this political debate? Pope Leo has tried very hard to respect dignity of others, including Trump. (47:42)