The Pats and Drake Maye’s Ceiling With Steve Muench. Plus, a Celtics Therapy Session With Michael Pina.

Brian chats with The Ringer’s Steve Muench about the Patriots’ surprising 6-2 record, Drake Maye’s MVP-type season so far, the offensive line’s play, Robert Spillane and the defense, and more (0:45). Then, he talks to The Ringer’s Michael Pina about the Celtics, how much the team has missed Jayson Tatum, their lack of talent in the frontcourt, and whether or not the team should tank (51:50). Brian and Jamie end with some last thoughts on Maye (1:19:15). We want to hear from you! Leave Brian a message on the listener line at 617-396-7172. Or send us your questions for our mailbag at [email protected]. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Host: Brian Barrett Guests: Steve Muench and Michael Pina Producer: Jamie McClellan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices