The Penske File on the challenges of touring in the USA

This week on First Spin, Hayden sits down with Travis Miles—vocalist/guitarist for Ontario’s long-running punk trio The Penske File—for a conversation that’s equal parts road-tested wisdom and wide-eyed love of making loud, honest songs with your best friends.Travis pulls back the curtain on why U.S. touring has become so tough for small Canadian bands and contrasts it with the radically different reality in Germany-- where indie venue culture, artist hospitality, and tight-knit communities can transform a show day into something that actually feels sustainable. Along the way, he reflects on the unexpected kinship you find across oceans when a tiny subculture knows the same records you do.That sense of connection threads into the band’s brand-new album, Reprieve. Travis talks about writing through the push-and-pull of getting older: nostalgia for the early-tour years when the road felt endless, acceptance that life has stakes now, and the stubborn, hopeful belief that wonder isn’t just for the beginning. Fatherhood reframes that outlook in vivid ways, and you can hear it in the songs—restless, grateful, and determined to keep the spark.Tour stories surface, but not the usual chaos-for-chaos’ sake. Think small details that reveal how a scene functions: the volunteer who sets a tone, the post-show playlist that mirrors your record shelf, the night a venue meal turns strangers into allies. It’s the kind of lived-in texture that explains why certain places become second homes for bands like The Penske File. Queue up the episode, then queue up Reprieve—and see why The Penske File keeps earning new believers, one honest chorus at a time.Songs in this Episode:LionsKamikaze KidsDead MapsLucky OnesRocking ChairIntroduction music Blood Sugar Blues by former First Spin guest, Drew White.If you enjoyed this episode, it’d mean a lot if you left a quick review—it's one of the best ways to help new listeners find the show.And if you want to hear more artists worth your time, follow First Spin on social:📱 TikTok📸 InstagramOfficial Spin Podcast Spotify PlaylistOfficial Spin Podcast Apple PlaylistThanks for listening—see you next week.