The Power Move Behind Doing “The Thing” (with Emily Romero) [Return x Self-Trust Podcast Crossover]

In this special crossover episode between the Return Podcast and Self Trust Podcast, Caitlan sits down with Emily Romero for a deeply honest, behind-the-scenes conversation about what it actually takes to do “the thing” that’s been calling you.Together, they explore the messy middle between knowing and doing, the role of self-trust, and what it looks like to build a business (and life) that actually reflects who you are. Plus, Caitlan gives a live, on-the-spot demo for Emily, offering a real-time glimpse into what it’s like to work inside Power Move.What You’ll Learn in This Episode: Why knowing yourself isn’t enough and what actually creates momentum  How Human Design and Internal Family Systems work together in business decisions  Why “doing the thing” rarely looks clean, linear, or logical  How to navigate fear, doubt, and resistance when stepping into something new  What aligned action actually looks like in real life (not just on Instagram)  Why short, high-impact containers can be more effective than long-term work (depending on your design)  The power of self-trust—and how it’s built over time Chapters: 00:00 – Welcome + crossover episode intro 02:00 – What “Return” and “Self Trust” are really about 04:00 – Human Design in action (Manifestor + Projector dynamics) 06:30 – Inside Caitlan’s Power Move intensive 11:00 – Why traditional business advice didn’t work 15:30 – The 2am “download” that changed everything 18:30 – Self-trust, fear, and doing the thing anyway 24:00 – From therapist to entrepreneur: rewriting the model 31:00 – Behind the scenes of Power Move (live coaching begins) 40:00 – Manifestor energy + working in spurts 45:00 – Incarnation cross + revealing what’s not working 52:00 – Selling, messaging, and “markets” in Human Design 57:00 – The truth about community (and what it actually means) 01:01:00 – Short-term depth vs. long-term work 01:05:00 – Final reflections + how to work togetherLinks & Resources: Learn more about Caitlan’s Power Move intensive Learn more about Emily's Luxury Immersions  Episode mentioned: Luxury Immersions (Episode 87 – Self Trust Podcast)  Episode mentioned: Power Move (Episode 106 – Return Podcast)  Connect with Emily Romero  Connect with Caitlan Siegenthaler Support the showProduced by Caitlan SiegenthalerCover Art by Kiara OparaIf you enjoyed this episode, share it with a friend, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me. And if you really loved it, the best thank-you is a written review on Apple Podcasts or a comment on Spotify. That is a beautiful energetic exchange for Caitlan creating the show.