The Preacher & the Presidents

He preached the gospel to an estimated 215 million people in person. He knelt in prayer with presidents in the Oval Office. He took midnight phone calls from Lyndon Johnson, who was drowning in Vietnam and needed someone to talk to who didn't want anything from him. He walked the corridors of the White House for more than fifty years — and paid a real price for it when Richard Nixon's lies unraveled on tape and took a piece of Graham's reputation with them. In this episode, host Michael Bahr digs into The Preacher and the Presidents: Billy Graham in the White House by Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy — a remarkable, meticulously researched account of the most unusual relationship in modern American political history. What does it cost a man of God to walk that close to power? Where did Graham get it right — and where did he get it badly wrong? And what did he never stop believing, through all of it, was the only thing that truly mattered? This episode ends with an invitation. Come ready to hear it. History is cool. Let's open the book.