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EPISODE · May 21, 2026 · 45 MIN

The Price of Joy: From Surviving to Thriving

from The Anele Podcast

Why is joy so expensive? And why does it feel so hard to come by? If you’re in this predicament, you’re not alone. 96% of South African women say joy doesn’t come easily (First for Women Here & Now Report). For most, it takes a lot of planning, effort, and even permission. And when we have the financial freedom to activate that joy, we still feel the need to explain ourselves. Today we unravel the deep-seated cultural and societal beliefs that have shaped how we perceive, receive and harness joy. Leading the conversation is multi-award-winning host, and one of South Africa’s most dynamic media personalities, Anele. She is joined by her co-host and friend of 24 years, Zimkhita, and today’s guest Tumi Morake. Tumi, South Africa’s First Lady of Comedy, is one of the country’s most sought-after comedians. She is an actress, businesswomen and writer. But beyond that, she is also a woman navigating a post-divorce journey that is both liberating and costly, on every level. She talks about ‘Tumi Time’ and the hefty price she’s paid for it. Zimkhita, a PR maverick and communications expert shares the joy she derives from spending money on herself and the ‘small little pleasures’ that make all the difference. Considering that 64% of South African women feel guilty spending money on themselves (First for Women Here & Now Report) this is quite a feat. Together the conversation naturally moves from their upbringings to their friendships, personal relationships and careers, sharing inspirational insights that reveal their own understanding and experience of joy. Stay tuned for a no-holds-barred conversation that will have you listening, learning and laughing. Powered by 1st for Women: car, home, business, and pet insurance designed for women.Read the full First for Women Her & Now Report here: Welcome to First for Women Insurance | Comprehensive CoveragePowered by First for Women InsuranceLearn more about car insurance made for women Car Insurance with 24/7 Safety & Dedicated Roadside Fleet | First for WomenHome insurance made for women First for Women Foundation | Empowering Women | Supporting CommunitiesBusiness insurance made for women Business Insurance for Women: Tailored & AffordablePet insurance made for women Pet Insurance | Purrfect Cover for Cats & Dogs | 1st for Women Insurance The First for women Foundation #GenerationNoneFirst for Women is a licensed non-life insurer and FSP. Ts & Cs online.📲 Follow the conversation: 1st for WomenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/1stforwomen?igsh=dmJ5ZWF6aWF5ZXVm Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/1stforWomen?mibextid=wwXIfr&mibextid=wwXIfrX: https://x.com/firstforwomen?s=11 Anele Mdoda: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zintathu?igsh=ZXd4dTdwODZrODRpX: https://x.com/anele?s=11Tumi Morake:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tumi_morake?igsh=NGZuYXpuOTFmZG5iFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TumiMorakeSA?mibextid=wwXIfr&mibextid=wwXIfr Zimkitha: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zimkhita_mafanya?igsh=NjJ4aG11ajA3b3o=Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/1P9hsz9MhB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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