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EPISODE · Jun 20, 2026 · 1H 45M

The Problem Nobody Wants to Talk About (John Ozbay Interview)

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End-to-end encrypted file sharing may sound simple, but for Cryptee, it took five years to ship. In this interview, Henry sits down with John Ozbay, founder and CEO of Cryptee, to talk through why: preventing CSAM, why client-side scanning doesn't work, how Cryptee's solution was designed to raise the barrier to mass spread without compromising encryption, and the broader philosophical question of where developer liability ends and moral responsibility begins.Please engage in the comments with extra care; this is a sensitive topic, and some viewers may have personal experience with the issues discussed.🔗 SOURCES & LINKS• Cryptee: https://crypt.ee• Stop Chat Control: https://stopchatcontrol.eu• Open Web Advocacy: https://open-web-advocacy.org• EDRI: https://edri.org🔎 RELATED VIDEOShttps://youtu.be/5iKvQk7drd4https://youtu.be/xE-YXAnOTeQ🧡 SUPPORT TECHLORE• Become a Techlorian: https://techlore.tech/support/#/portal/signup• All Support Methods: https://techlore.tech/support/🔐 MORE FROM TECHLORE• Homepage & Newsletter: https://techlore.tech/• Our Course, Go Incognito: https://techlore.tech/go-incognito-course/• Our Recommended Tools: https://tools.techlore.tech/• Take Our SPA Quiz: https://quiz.techlore.tech/• Learn more on our SPA Wiki: https://wiki.techlore.tech/• VPN Finder: https://vpn.techlore.tech/⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 INTRO00:04:08 E2EE SHARING HESITATIONS00:14:09 HOW IS BIG TECH HANDLING THIS?00:16:24 LOCAL SCANNING00:19:27 HOW ARE CHAT APPS HANDLING THIS?00:21:24 E2EE BACKUPS00:22:40 HOW MUCH IS THIS CONSIDERED?00:25:38 CRYPTEE'S SOLUTION00:42:09 THREAT MODELING00:48:18 MEGA'S APPROACH00:53:16 LIABILITY VS. RESPONSIBILITY01:01:40 HOW TO ENGAGE PRODUCTIVELY01:09:48 CHAT CONTROL & ULTERIOR MOTIVES01:21:34 IS CHAT CONTROL DEAD?01:25:33 HOW JOHN GOT INVOLVED01:34:44 CHANGING OVER TIME + RIGHT TO REPAIR + LINUX01:41:32 CLOSING THOUGHTS#e2ee #cryptee #digitalrights...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUtmniEBdWo

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