The Real Cost Of Making Things Right With Biesse Expert Mark Trapnell

Robin Johnson sits down with Biesse Sales Manager Mark Trapnell for a detailed look at manufacturing, production flow, tooling decisions, CNC capability and the practical realities of running a modern workshop. Mark shares his journey from apprentice heavy goods mechanic to senior roles across major manufacturing businesses before moving into machinery consultancy. He explains why understanding process flow, input quality, tooling choices and skill sets matters more than any single machine. This episode gives clear insight into lean thinking, production efficiency, value stream mapping and what small makers should consider before investing in CNC machinery. A grounded conversation full of practical advice for anyone working with wood, materials or complex workshop processes.Key Topics CoveredHow Mark moved from heavy goods engineering into large scale wood manufacturingLessons from mass production and why seconds matter when scaling outputHow lean thinking applies to small artisan workshopsValue stream mapping and why wasted movement destroys efficiencyThe real cost of poor tooling and why the cheapest cutters can damage qualityHow to decide if your workshop is ready for CNCWhy skill shortages are shaping the future of makingExpanding into stone, glass and advanced materialsWhat a first time CNC buyer must evaluate before spending moneyHow Biesse machines support small and mid sized makers with complex workflows Enjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Mark’s background and early career in heavy goods engineering04:00 Moving into woodworking and large scale pine furniture manufacturing08:30 Training, City and Guilds progression and early CNC exposure12:00 Managing teams, production flow and why seconds matter at scale17:50 Lean principles and the importance of correct input processes21:30 Cutting waste, skip costs and understanding value stream mapping25:20 Why lean is pointless without clear information from designers and clients29:50 The reality of manufacturing for prisons and major tier one contractors33:40 Lessons from running workshops without formal training38:30 Complex refurbishment projects including House of Lords benches42:00 Joining Biesse and why real production experience matters in sales46:30 Choosing the right CNC and why Mark refuses to oversell machines49:10 Should small makers consider stone and advanced materials52:00 What first time machine buyers must understand before investing55:30 Why skilled labour plus CNC creates the strongest workflow59:40 Advice for young makers and why you must take opportunities