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EPISODE · Dec 12, 2025 · 33 MIN

The Real Reason Our Behaviour Systems Undermine Safeguarding

from Safeguarding Redefined · host Cornerstone Safeguarding

What if the way we manage behaviour is quietly working against the thing we care about most - a child's safety?In this episode, Chris chats with SEMH specialist Heather Lucas to explore one of the most awkward questions in education:can you manage behaviour and still be someone children feel safe to disclose to?They unpack the hidden tensions built into many behaviour systems, why punitive approaches damage felt safety, and what really happens when a child is expected to trust the same adult who restrains, sanctions, or suspends them.Heather takes the conversation deeper, questioning whether splitting the roles is truly the answer or whether the real issue is how we approach behaviour in the first place.If you’ve ever sensed a mismatch between your behaviour policy and your safeguarding values, this episode will strike a chord and offer a more connected, relational way forward.Connect with Heather Lucas:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8C%B1heather-lucas-6a6aaa319/Email: [email protected] is coming soon! -----Useful Links: https://buymeacoffee.com/cornerstonesafeguarding  - Every coffee you buy helps us keep creating practical tools and content for safeguarding professionals like youTo find out more about Cornerstone Safeguarding - www.CornerstoneSafeguarding.co.uk Email us at Cornerstone: [email protected] in a meeting to discuss your safeguarding needs: https://calendar.app.google/AGMat9bDsAjPtqMZASubscribe to Cornerstone Connect - https://www.cornerstonesafeguarding.co.uk/cornerstoneconnectsignup - for fresh safeguarding insights, priority access to support, and exclusive discounts. Chris East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-east-801496174/Leah East on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leah-east-cornerstone/Producers of this episode: Chris East, Leah EastHost of this episode: Chris East

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