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EPISODE · Jul 25, 2026 · 50 MIN

The Red Scare, But Dumber

from On the Media · host Brooke Gladstone, Micah Loewinger, Gil Duran, Michael J. Bustamente, Gillian Brockell

This week, the State Department published a report accusing Cuba of being the “capital of 21st-century communism,” and of plotting an anti-American revolution. On this week’s On the Media, why the Trump administration can’t stop invoking Cuba as its “communist” bogeyman. Plus, hear from a former flight attendant turned independent journalist, who is doggedly covering ICE’s removal flights. [01:00]  Brooke Gladstone looks at how President Trump and his allies are using dehumanizing language and the specter of communism — seemingly inspired by far right provocateur Jack Posobiec — to try to discredit all Democrats leading up to the midterm elections. Gil Duran, journalist and author of The Nerd Reich, explains the connection.  [08:47] The State Department released a report this week about the threat that Cuba poses to the United States, listing everyone from Mayors Zohran Mamdani and Karen Bass, journalist Amy Goodman, to a co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s as agents of Cuban influence. Brooke sits down with Michael J. Bustamante, associate professor of Cuban and Cuban-American history at the University of Miami, to talk about the cherry-picked historical scholarship in the report, and the role that the Cuba bogeyman plays in American politics today. [31:25] Micah Loewinger speaks with Gillian Brockell, independent journalist and former flight attendant who is covering ICE flights and third-country removals. Brockell explains why all ICE flights, domestic and international, are unsafe, and how the Trump administration is trying to skirt around judges’ orders by sending asylum seekers to countries, often far-flung, that they didn’t come from.     Further reading / watching: “Why Trump Keeps Talking About Communism: The 'Unhumans' Playbook,” by Gil Duran Cuban Memory Wars: Retrospective Politics in Revolution and Exile, by Michael J. Bustamante “ICE Deportation Flights Are Getting Longer and Crueler,” by Gillian Brockell “Tracking All of Trump’s Known Third-Country Removals,” by Gillian Brockell “Video proves Delta flew Liam Ramos and his dad to ICE detention center,” by Gillian Brockell On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today (https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm). Follow our show on Instagram, Bluesky, TikTok and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing [email protected]. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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