Hi, I'm Megan Zagora. And I'm Eric D. Mack. And this is the Daily Dish, Bravo's official podcast.
In this week's episode of the Real Housewives of Potomac, the ladies let loose at a dominatrix party in Portugal. As you guys know, I had the pleasure of interviewing the entire cast of RHOP for Bravo TV.com's exclusive season five after show. In the latest installment, the ladies fill us in on everything from the dominatrix party in Portugal, including Karen Huger's pillow fetish. I was lucky enough to ask Karen all about her sex life, to which she replied, let your mind run wild.
Plus, Ashley Garvey reacts to Wendy calling her a snake. And Candice Sillard Bassett explains how shocked and hurt she was by Ashley's decision to write a statement from Monique. Speaking of Monique, does she actually talk trash behind Ashley's back? Also, in our Bravo Insider clip, which is available exclusively at Bravo TV.com, the ladies react to Ashley and Michael Darby's sexually fluid marriage, with Gisele saying, I just didn't think she was going to share that with the group.
Remember, some of the voices you'll hear beyond the cast are Potomac producers and daily Dish podcast guests. That's RHOP executive producer Kamar Basaraj and Bravo's VP of current production, Josh Brown, AKA the people who know all the secrets. Let's take a listen. Candice, this is when you find out that Ashley has provided a statement for Monique.
I want you to hear this from me versus, like, seeing if. So Monique did ask me to write a statement. I think I was hurt first, and then I was shocked because I honestly. I honestly thought that myself and Ashley were moving into a functioning space, a positive space.
After having a lot of drama and contention for a long time, I wasn't nervous to tell Candace about writing the statement, but I knew that I would have to defend myself to the group. And it's not always a good feeling to know that you're gonna have to, you know, like, defend your actions and justify yourself to other people when you feel like you did the right thing and you feel strong in what you did in your convictions. Well, first of all, I thought it was very brave of Ashley to tell her from the group, okay, that she had done it. She wanted to be transparent.
I thought it was the right thing to do because it was gonna come out. If it made it to court, it was gonna come out anyway. They also just completely excused any and all action that Candace took, you know, so it Was like your actions being excused. I remember being at the dinner table with that knife.
I was full blown pregnant. And I said that night, I was like, I feel completely uncomfortable here. I did not think that that display of behavior was cute. Oh, Ashley's pulling the book out of my book.
Walking in her truth. Yeah. Candace does not receive it well, but I admire Ashley for being honest about it. There's something about knowing that someone has done something that's incredibly up and that person smiling in your face for some time and acting as if everything is all hunky dory and great.
And then to know, yeah, I was with you. I tried to you up and surprise. I'm just now telling you there's something about that kind of hurt that just like, that hits differently because it's like, damn, damn. Like, I thought we were good.
And then, of course, she says, you know, I asked my. I talked to my lawyer, and my lawyer said that it wouldn't hurt you. I just didn't want me to go to jail because she was really scared. Yeah, the bitch should be scared.
She should be scared. And it's not your place to intervene, especially because your ass and your forehead were not present for the bull. You weren't there. Robin, you bring up the fact that Ashley said the statement now means that her and Candace are even.
But, Ashley, you also said that you wrote this statement kind of as revenge towards Candace. I didn't use a word. We should. Now you're eating.
Oh, I think she felt obligated to write the statement because Monique probably guilted her into it or, you know, told her a good story, whatever. That's what she doesn't get. She just. It's all about Monique.
It ain't about Monique. It ain't right. It's Monique. Monique, Monique.
So I don't think she initially went in with it and was like, yeah, I'm gonna write this statement. I don't get even with her. But I think telling herself that makes her feel better about writing it. I think that she had alpha.
Candace. I was just disappointed. Really disappointed. Ashley did it in a vindictive spirit.
She did it to get back at me for what she claims I did to her family. I was actually called potential witness. Oh, my God. Mike and I were talking at one point in the night, and one of the camera guys walked between us, and that's when he did it.
The cameraman named Chris as a witness. I am not responsible for your husband's exploits. I'm not. I apologize to her because she was hurt for my part and what happened to her, but you're not going to give me that entire satchel.
So to say that you did what you did to get back at me, so now we're even. This is what I was told. That's. That's a level of just low down, trifling maggots in the dirt that I just don't.
I don't comprehend. Well, Wendy, as you say in the moment, that's some snake. I realize that, Wendy. What?
What, what's it I said that's if I'm sitting here saying it to the person, how am I a snake? How are you able to smile in Candace's face? How are you able to tell Candace, I appreciate where our relationship is. If you were so genuine I about appreciating where your relationship is with Candace and you guys haven't grown, then you could have extended her a courtesy of a phone call.
You could simply say, hey, she contacted me for this. I just don't want her to go to jail. And I'm thinking about doing it the same way. Candace pulled her to the side.
When she was presented with the opportunity and got a text about her husband. Candace could have splattered that in front of everybody. A new brug at the table. She decided to instead pull her to the side and have a conversation with her.
When Ashley was presented with the opportunity to be a snake. That's a snake. That's what a snake does. Does.
When I first heard that, you know, I'm a snake, it bothered me a little bit. And then after I thought about it, I was like, what the hell do I care? A what do I care what Wendy says about me? She has no idea what's going on.
She was never there. She doesn't even really know all of who Candice the what do I care about this woman's opinion of me? Once again, Wendy is, you know, injecting herself in a lot of situations very passionately, very vocally, very strong. I don't know that this involved her, and I don't think she needs to come off awkward, but she does.
I mean, the thing about snakes is they really only attack when they're provoked. So, yes, if I bit, it's because someone poked him private at me first. And while it may not have been a recent thing, you know, I'm sure snakes have a little bit of memory, too. And that was my way of getting my vindication.
That's terrible thing to say, but, yeah, I guess ultimately that's what it is. You will not know where you Stand with Ashley until she is given the opportunity to sell you like Judas. So Jesus. And she sold.
Candace, y' all gonna get these facts however you want them. However you want them. Y' all gonna get these facts. Okay, Read, read them down.
That stuff just pale, you know, Let it go. Eventually, Shane, Candace is gonna fall out too. So just a matter of time. So let's talk a little bit more about the dominatrix party.
I mean, we just wanted to have fun. Like, you know, it's nice to be able to just get together and go on girls trip and just have fun. Candace, where did you get the inspiration for this outfit you wore? Oh, honey, that's her name.
Yes. She killed it. Like you have. You just have this stuff in your closet.
Like, I put that outfit together for Kandi Burruss. Welcome to the dungeon tour. It's like a dominatrix show. It was amazing.
And I was like, okay, we're going to this thing. I gotta. I want to have my booty cheeks out. I have to be cute.
So I basically just repurposed that whole outfit. It was all in fun and games. And of course Karen didn't want to do it. Karen didn't want to come.
Karen didn't bring her damn panties. Like, she just was like a buzzkill. You look like cruel deville. And you look like a whore on the street.
Cornbrang. Thinking about it like what this is. But see, this is typical Karen behavior. She deflects.
So anytime she feels like someone is saying something about her, she immediately flips it and turns it on them. Like that is a skill. And she's very good at it. But I'm like, she looked like Cruella, very damn Dalmatians.
And frankly, if I look like a hooker on a street corner, then thank you, I accomplished my goal. Because wasn't that the whole theme of the party? Yes. Like what?
And you start talking about this, this pillow fetish that you have. Can you elaborate a little bit more on this vibration? No, I actually have the pillow fetish. What does that mean?
I like the pillows around me. And one in particular is my favorite pillow. Okay, It's a pillow fetish. You have tons and tons of pillows around you and that's an else for you.
Let your mind run wild. Okay. But yeah, it's a healthy thing to do. It's very weird.
The stuff that Karen chooses to share and the stuff that she gets defensive about. Okay, you could take that, but you choose to share as you have a pillow. Like, it makes no sense. Why would she share that Girl.
Bye. You also confessed that you had not given blow jobs for at least two and a half years. Can I retire my mouth? Yes, I said that I had a lot on my plate the last two and a half years.
So he has got a blow job two and a half years. It wasn't the first thing on my mind. Poor Ray. So Karen has, throughout the since season one, always talked about her sex life for whatever reason.
And it's just not believable. So I don't even. She probably never gave a blow job. Like, not just two years, but it's probably been 20 years.
And now we know why Ray won't tell her he love her. Like, clearly, you won't even suck a man's penis. Has that changed since? No.
No, it has not. Nope. I think my mouth is retired. I said that at the lake house.
I retired. Yeah, I'm retired. You know, listen. I am the matriarch, so I listen to that.
I can give them some wisdom from my past experience. They can take the lead. It'll be like, no, I'm retired. I don't have to work that hard.
Woo. I both know Candace says that both Monique and Chris have talked badly about you and that they are playing you. She has talked cash money about you to me, her and her husband. But what I care about, his actions and what Monique actually care about, she did.
And she's playing the dog out of you, however. So what's important to me is what you do and say to my face and in the public and how you talk about me. And Monique, as I said, has been very supportive of my relationship in the past. When we were going for things last year, Monique was the only woman in the group really had my back.
You keep in mind that Candace. Candace and her husband spent a lot of time with the Samuels. So Candace can really give you the tea about, you know, who they trash, which, you know, I'm one of those people all the time. They trash the Darbies.
You know, to be fair, I could see Monique and Chris making, like, jokes about Michael and me and do I love the thought of it? No. But ultimately, I don't foresee them being anything that would actually try to be harmful. But Ashley doesn't want to listen to it because she doesn't want to believe it because they'll feel really stupid about helping Monique out.
And Candace, to her credit, has not even told the world the behind the scenes of Samuels and the things that they say. Like, she's actually kept their secrets, which is like, blows my mind. Because I hadn't told everything I was told anyway. But you know, you know what I'm saying?
She took a light hearted joking comment and she went back to the group and she made it seem as if there was a shady negative tone. I kind of gave it a side I like. Huh. That's interesting because I've been doing nothing but trying to just kind of get over it and then move forward.
And so there's a lot of manipulation there. And it's just funny because everything has been spun so that it's the opposite. That's all fodder to me, but the meat of the matter is when I really needed my friend. She was there for me.
So she could have said whatever the hell she wanted about me, but her actions show that she really is my friend. Do you think any of the other ladies have had a threesome? No, I don't feel like any of these ladies have ever partaken in a threesome, but do I think they would? The one who I think I could see maybe a little bit is to see more of the Real House of Potomac after show, head to bravo tv.com or check out the link in our description.
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