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EPISODE · Nov 17, 2025 · 44 MIN

The Right’s Civil War Over Israel

from The Bitchuation Room · host Francesca Fiorentini

*Become a patron to get Francesca's exclusive postscript* MAGA rarely disagrees. But blind support and billions of dollars to Israel is becoming a wedge issue on the right, just as it is on the left. Only very very different. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson are all openly speaking out against Israel much to the chagrin of conservative and Christian Zionists. Francesca explains the rift between neoconservatives and the growing chorus of “groypers” who are actually antisemitic. Republicans have rarely questioned supporting military aggression abroad. But after two years of a genocide the public opinion around Israel among the conservative base is shifting rapidly. And politicians and podcasters are fanning the flames. It all came to a head when Tucker Carlson interviewed Holocaust denying white nationalist Nick Fuentes and had very little pushback. That somehow was a bridge too far for some conservatives and now people like Ben Shapiro are trying to put the hateful cat back in the bag. One they have let out over and over again. While the left and students protesting against war have been called antisemitic by the media, or detained for speaking out, there is real antisemitism growing unabated on the right. Will the establishment do anything to change course? Who will win this war or has it already been won? 00:00:00 INTRO 00:03:00 THE LEFT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BETTER ON ISRAEL 00:05:20 THE RIGHT HISTORICALLY LOVES ISRAEL 00:08:53 THE RIGHT BECOMES ANTI-ZIONIST? 00:10:56 THE TIDE OF PUBLIC OPINION 00:12:46 IT’S ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT TO BE ANTI-ZIONIST 00:16:37 IDENTITY POLITICS 00:19:47 CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM 00:21:48 PURE ANTISEMITISM 00:26:22 THE CHARLIE KIRK OF IT ALL 00:28:30 NICK FUENTES ASCENDS 00:39:39 THE 2028 ELECTION  ** Support these deep dive episodes by becoming a patron https://www.patreon.com/bitchuationroom. You can also be a member on YouTube, Twitch, or a paid subscriber on substack: franifio.substack.com.  See Francesca LIVE PASADENA Saturday December 13th, 7:30pm, The Ice House https://www.showclix.com/event/new-world-disorder-12-13-25-7-30-pm Get 20% off SUNSET LAKE CBD with code FRANTIFA at check out. Explore all their organic, vertically-integrated craft CBD products including tinctures, gummies, smokables, salves and more: https://www.sunsetlakecbd.com *** Tip the show: Venmo: @TBR-LIVE Cash-App: @TBRLIVE Get your union-made TBR merch: www.bitchuationroom.com *** Thanks to Brent Godin, Paige Oamek, & Andy Vasoyan   *** Follow The Bitchuation Room on Twitter @BitchuationPod BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.social Check Out The Bitchuation Room Podcast on: iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuation Google Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuation Stitcher: http://bit.ly/stitcherbitchuation Spotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuation Find Francesca On:  Substack: franifio.substack.com  Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifio  YouTube: The Bitchuation Room’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/franifio  Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/franifio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Insta: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/ Watch The Bitchuation Room LIVE on Tuesdays 1pm PT/4pmET on YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/franifio or Twitch https://www.twitch.tv/franifio.Listen to the show on:iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuationGoogle Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuationSpotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuationFollow the show on:BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.socialIG: https://www.instagram.com/bitchuationroom/Twitter: https://x.com/BitchuationPodFollow Francesca on:IG:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/franifio/⁠Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifioBlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/franifio.bsky.socialThreads: https://www.threads.com/@franifioFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

*Become a patron to get Francesca's exclusive postscript* MAGA rarely disagrees. But blind support and billions of dollars to Israel is becoming a wedge issue on the right, just as it is on the left. Only very very different. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson are all openly speaking out against Israel much to the chagrin of conservative and Christian Zionists. Francesca explains the rift between neoconservatives and the growing chorus of “groypers” who are actually antisemitic. Republicans have rarely questioned supporting military aggression abroad. But after two years of a genocide the public opinion around Israel among the conservative base is shifting rapidly. And politicians and podcasters are fanning the flames. It all came to a head when Tucker Carlson interviewed Holocaust denying white nationalist Nick Fuentes and had very little pushback. That somehow was a bridge too far for some conservatives and now people like Ben Shapiro are trying to put the hateful cat back in the bag. One they have let out over and over again. While the left and students protesting against war have been called antisemitic by the media, or detained for speaking out, there is real antisemitism growing unabated on the right. Will the establishment do anything to change course? Who will win this war or has it already been won? 00:00:00 INTRO 00:03:00 THE LEFT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BETTER ON ISRAEL 00:05:20 THE RIGHT HISTORICALLY LOVES ISRAEL 00:08:53 THE RIGHT BECOMES ANTI-ZIONIST? 00:10:56 THE TIDE OF PUBLIC OPINION 00:12:46 IT’S ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT TO BE ANTI-ZIONIST 00:16:37 IDENTITY POLITICS 00:19:47 CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM 00:21:48 PURE ANTISEMITISM 00:26:22 THE CHARLIE KIRK OF IT ALL 00:28:30 NICK FUENTES ASCENDS 00:39:39 THE 2028 ELECTION  ** Support these deep dive episodes by becoming a patron https://www.patreon.com/bitchuationroom. You can also be a member on YouTube, Twitch, or a paid subscriber on substack: franifio.substack.com.  See Francesca LIVE PASADENA Saturday December 13th, 7:30pm, The Ice House https://www.showclix.com/event/new-world-disorder-12-13-25-7-30-pm Get 20% off SUNSET LAKE CBD with code FRANTIFA at check out. Explore all their organic, vertically-integrated craft CBD products including tinctures, gummies, smokables, salves and more: https://www.sunsetlakecbd.com *** Tip the show: Venmo: @TBR-LIVE Cash-App: @TBRLIVE Get your union-made TBR merch: www.bitchuationroom.com *** Thanks to Brent Godin, Paige Oamek, & Andy Vasoyan   *** Follow The Bitchuation Room on Twitter @BitchuationPod BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bitchuationroom.bsky.social Check Out The Bitchuation Room Podcast on: iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuation Google Music: http://bit.ly/GoogleBitchuation Stitcher: http://bit.ly/stitcherbitchuation Spotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuation Find Francesca On:  Substack: franifio.substack.com  Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifio  YouTube: The Bitchuation Room’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/franifio  Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/franifio Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Franifio Insta: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/

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