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EPISODE · Apr 24, 2026 · 1H 38M

The Rise and Fall of Brooklyn’s Indie Music Scene: Ronen Givony on Us v. Them

from OAMusic · host Orlando Alonso

Writer, curator, and Wordless Music founder Ronen Givony joins the OAMusic Podcast to discuss his new book, Us v. Them, a history of the Brooklyn music scene in the early 2000s.We talk about DIY venues, Williamsburg, Glasslands, Death By Audio, Grizzly Bear, TV on the Radio, Death by Audio, Nonesuch Records, the post-Napster music world, and how indie music became both a scene and a marketing term.Ronen also reflects on founding Wordless Music, his time at the Chamber Music Society of Lincoln Center, and the strange cultural moment when classical music, indie rock, and New York nightlife began to overlap.Buy Us V. Them here:https://www.amazon.com/Us-v-Them-Deca...Wordless Musichttps://www.wordlessmusic.org/aboutco...Ronen Givony is the founder of Wordless Music, an orchestra and concert series that has worked with artists across genres, from Sigur Rós and Mica Levi to Terrence Malick and Paul Thomas Anderson. A curator for music festivals and venues in the United States and abroad, he is the author of two other books: "24 Hour Revenge Therapy (or, The Strange Death of Selling Out)" and "Not for You: Pearl Jam and the Present Tense." Born and raised in South Florida, he now lives in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn.

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