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EPISODE · Jun 29, 2026 · 1H 14M

The Rise and Fall of the Nation State | Interview: Rana Dasgupta

from The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg · host The Dispatch

We love talking about nations here at Chateau de Remnant Today, Rana Dasgupta is dropping by to shake things up and discuss his new book, After Nations. Jonah Goldberg and Rana cover nation-states, liberalism, state-corporation cooperation, the iron law of oligarchy, capitalism, economic determinism, mass human migration, creative solutions for changing environments, and the future of power.  Show Notes: —After Nations: The Making and Unmaking of a World Order The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We love talking about nations here at Chateau de Remnant Today, Rana Dasgupta is dropping by to shake things up and discuss his new book, After Nations. Jonah Goldberg and Rana cover nation-states, liberalism, state-corporation cooperation, the iron law of oligarchy, capitalism, economic determinism, mass human migration, creative solutions for changing environments, and the future of power.  Show Notes: —After Nations: The Making and Unmaking of a World Order The Remnant is a production of ⁠The Dispatch⁠, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a nonpartisan perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including the Saturday Ruminant, audio versions of all our articles and newsletters, and Jonah’s twice-weekly G-File—⁠click here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Instructions on how to set up your members-only feed can be found here, and if you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member ⁠by clicking here⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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