EPISODE · Jul 29, 2025 · 41 MIN
They killed her father in 1988. She refuses to make it about her.
from What do we do next? · host Listening is the Revolution
The third option for Iran nobody's talking about, with Zahra AmanpourBorn in the 1979 revolution, her father killed in the 1988 massacre. She explains the path between war and appeasement.Zahra Amanpour was born in Tehran during the 1979 revolution. Her father, a prominent advocate for the MEK/PMOI, was killed in 1988, the summer the regime massacred some 30,000 political prisoners. Raised within the Iranian resistance by her mother, she now serves on the board of the Women's Freedom Forum, amplifying the voices of women under repressive regimes, while building economic empowerment programs for underserved communities in the US. She has spent her life carrying one conviction: the cause of the Iranian people is a human issue, not a regional one.She joined host Molly Ruland for what may be the foundational conversation of this series, the clearest explanation you will find of the third option. Not bombing Iran, not appeasing it, but supporting the Iranian people to free themselves. They get into how the regime manufactures a false choice between war and appeasement, why targeted sanctions starve the regime and not the people, why women lead this resistance by design, and the truth about Iran's nuclear program.Key TakeawaysThe regime thrives on a false binary, appeasement or war, that it created intentionally, because both options actually embolden it while the third option, supporting the Iranian people, does not.Targeted sanctions are not about starving Iranians. That is regime propaganda. They are about starving the regime's bank accounts and its Revolutionary Guard through the specific channels that fund it.Women lead this resistance by design, because the regime's first move was to suppress women, and the resistance recognized that giving women leadership is how you topple a fundamentalist dictatorship.The resistance takes no money from any external power. It is grassroots funded and self sufficient on purpose, so no government or group can claim to own it, even though that limits its reach against the regime's well funded lobbying.Iran's nuclear program is real and the regime will not give it up willingly, because it is a negotiating chip. The only thing that ends it is the end of the regime, which is part of Maryam Rajavi's 10 point plan for a nuclear free Iran.Zahra Amanpour said, "We're not talking about taking food from the Iranian people's plates. We're talking about starving the regime's bank accounts."Host Molly Ruland said, "Americans don't know the difference between discomfort and oppression."Timestamps00:00 Who Zahra Amanpour is 02:00 Her father, the 1988 massacre, and a human cause 05:30 The false binary: appeasement versus war 09:00 What the third option actually means 12:00 How individuals can help beyond watching 16:00 Targeted sanctions versus regime propaganda 20:00 Why women lead the resistance by design 26:00 The nuclear program, honestly 32:00 Why the resistance takes no outside money 38:00 Discomfort versus oppression, and the moment we're inConnect with the movementNCRI Women: search "NCRI Women" on any platform National Council of Resistance of Iran: ncr-iran.org Get full access to What do we do next? at whatdowedonext.substack.com/subscribe
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