The saints knew it all along. Talk with Michael Levin.

The episode about how mind and intelligence are fundamental and widespread (even if it doesn't seem like they are when you listen to the news). The discussion moves from regenerative medicine and aging to the deeper questions of how we recognize and ethically engage with unfamiliar minds, where ancient spiritual intuitions meet modern science, and what place hold in a world filling with hybrid and engineered beings.In a joke retold by Dr. Levin in another video: two mind neurons are talking—one is a mystic, the other a materialist.The mystic neuron says, "I believe in a higher something. I almost feel like there's an ultimate goal to what we do." The materialist scoffs and replies, "Nonsense! There's nothing out there and beyond us!"Dr. Michael Levin is the Vannevar Bush Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University and director of the Allen Discovery Center. His lab studies bioelectricity, the electrical signaling cells use to know what to build, and has used it to regrow organs, repair birth defects, suppress cancer, and create novel organisms like Xenobots and Anthrobots.