You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies wasatch investigative studies of paranormal science show Which apparently is yet another acronym for a super natural hour of what why you doing this to me man? Hey, welcome to another episode of the witch show. I'm castle. It's so hot outside.
I think I'm going to melt It's beautiful outside. You know what actually I kind of like the heat it could be worse We could live in Lydia where it's like a hundred fifteen degrees every day and people shoot at you and they don't have air conditioning And they be hedging your Christian right it could always be worse although although I will point out that it is so hot that my swimming pool In the backyard is like a hot tub right now. It doesn't cool you off at all You know people always complain about winter, but I would rather have it be cold and put on extra layers I would be comfortable instead of having a be hot outside. No, you know, no, no, no No, I would love it hot see I grew up in a house that had no air conditioning My parents just barely got air conditioning like last year and I'm I'm 40 years old So I grew up for years with that air conditioning.
I love it hot I'm a wimp. I have to have total air in fact when I was in high school I used to know my friends my turn on the heater in my car and roll the windows up and the window roller should broke off is the old manual Roller and I drive around until they work right you're evil Anyway, we're excited to be here with you today. I am Castle one of your hosts And we have with us lurch hello who's also one of our hosts He's a sweater now you guys have probably heard there's a different voice on here today That is not the end because Danny's usually with us, but she thought her wedding with the cold Daniel was a gun so deep with the cold Anyway, the end thought the her wedding anniversary is more important than recording podcast with us. Yeah, I know The heck little is her current husband don't know she killed the previous five for their money You weren't supposed to say that.
Oh, I hope you're not so you don't know what you wake up with a chainsaw I've never said anyway, we do have a guest here with us today and our guest is mr. Cleave Evans Now Cleave Evans is actually is a member of WISPS if you guys remember back the very first episode we recorded I said one of my plans was to have some guests on I talked about him been Hanson on We will still probably do that in the future I just need to be here calling him has been still in Australia or is he in the US now? I don't know I know I know Canada recently I know he got married and then he's been to some tours lately like some Paracons UFO kind of things, but I just I need to call him and when I was thinking about it He's on a Sunday moon and I figured he probably didn't want to be I guess on our show while he's on a Sunday moon of all the odd things whatever But I did promise that we would have some haunt survivors on our show and mr. Cleave Evans is here with us and he's a haunt survivor And he actually is one of the most interesting cases we've dealt with definitely in fact to be honest with you We are still doing with the case it has not completely resolved itself yet It's gotten better Better but there's still issues there and we'll talk to that a little about that a little bit deeper into our podcast Before we get started though, I would like to take a minute to plug the other podcast Those who don't follow Greg's guide to new music he released an episode a few days ago And that episode actually features entire cast of the wist podcast myself lurch heffet and dn And so that's a good one to go catch There's bacon cell with Kenny that I believe they released an episode every Monday And we love Kenny even if he has a little spoon admittedly he doesn't like being the big spoon he said so himself Um, there's radio Roman and 8-bit arcade and did I miss anything lurch?
Nothing I think of I think that is all the currently active shows that are there and there's kind of an archive of some of the older shows that did three or four episodes And I don't use the word defunct they may come back with new episodes, but they should have recorded for a while Um for those who've got a chance listen to Greg's new music guide You'll you would know that castles taste of music is horrendous Castle taste of music is awesome. Uh, I have two words for you clay aiken Oh, there's nothing wrong with clay aiken Not only did you have clay aiken solo album you had his american idol album on there so There's nothing wrong with clay aiken or yodeling for you the other link is okay Now, you know I promised at the end of the regs guide to new music that we would fade out with yodeling And that never happened and so I'm gonna fade out this episode of the old link and there's nothing any of you all can do this There is There really is he's got the controls there so how do you plan to uh thwart my efforts? Maybe if you bribe me, I'll let you do what you want. Oh, hey, yeah, I'm not quite sure how to take that Anyway, but regardless my taste of music is awesome I'm sorry.
I was Choking on something there. I think you were choking on castles taste in music or that nasty Coke product you got over there Was there was something that wasn't the Coke? Anyway, we last time we talked about having dian talk about chakras And what those are how they work how to deal with those the human body has seven chakras But to be honest with you, I know very little about chakras beyond that Um, well, maybe we should talk about this one dian is here And that's what's gonna say that's gonna be the plan is when dian is actually here and can talk about chakras We will talk about chakras isn't a chakra like a percussion instrument. I think that's a much chakra No, actually wait.
No, that's a freedom You know when we start getting into chakras and ors and I know we talked about ora's a little bit in the last podcast Um, that stuff's kind of What's the word I'm looking for? Um, hokey? Yes, you took the word right out of my mouth Not quite where I was going but that kind of goes into the real metaphor deeply into the metaphysical kind of realm of things And I'm and Greg's guy to new music cafe talked about being a realist And when it comes to ghost investigations and paranormal I consider myself and I'm seeing what half his reaction to my verbi Cheers gonna be I'm a paranormal realist See, I think if we're talking about chakras I I need to like like sit down with a sitar and burn some nod champer or something. Hey, you can do the sitar I just don't get into it.
I haven't really studied it. I don't really know too much And that's kind of where I'm at. I kind of make fun of chakras and I'm kind of joking around a little bit I really don't know much about it. Um, the end knows more than us She's really by no means an expert expert, but she knows more than I think anybody in this room Um, the aura thing that I can kind of buy into it because I've actually seen him Anybody can see him it just takes practice on how to do it and no one what it is to do Um, and it's interesting because again the colors with those ores really do tie into personality traits I've noticed.
Um, I know cleave when we were at your house one time brandy saw your ora color what she say you were I think she did do you remember what the personality traits on that were? No I I think it must have been really good though because I I don't know but and she said it was a lighter green. I don't know what that means Yeah, I say if I remember right I think we read up on them I think they're actually pretty good fit if I remember right and you can google it You can google, uh, you know different oras and ill give you descriptions and tell you more information about it Now along with that like I said we're talking more about chakras and some of that metaphysical stuff next time Deanna's here now we did get a new listener question that came in since our last show And i'm gonna read that question here on the air Um, and this question is from Becky star and Becky. I hope you don't let me say your name, but i'm gonna say it anyway So she's gonna learn to do Here's a question for the podcast is it possible for an individual to have a spiritual ability that remains latent for a long time and then manifest after years Or spiritual gifts and abilities more likely to display early on as well as throughout an individual's life And a related question is it possible to suppress a spiritual ability gift or sensitivity Be it at an early stage or even later on in life The reason for this kind of repression could be anything from being told by parents or even society that those kind of things aren't acceptable To simply not wanting to deal with associated responsibilities or stresses These may be dumb questions, but they are some things i've had on my mind for a while They're actually not dumb questions.
They're actually really good questions But Becky you're gonna have to wait for two weeks because the ad insisted that we wait till she get back Hey, hey, hold on hold on. That's not fair to Becky. She's the one. Yeah, she's the one that decided to go celebrate her anniversary.
It's right priority, right? So we should just make stuff up and give her a message. That's such a cookie. I got your back That's what you call a tease.
So see now Becky at least one other listener will probably listen to you now No, she's gonna write us off. She's like i want to know now But i want an answer now All right in her defense. That's not really fair though. So i agree.
Anyway, sorry Becky Becky, I got your back. I said i wanted to know that you don't you have dianne's back I got both their backs. I just went back even though we hadn't forgot about Becky We got her question and to be honest with you. I really want to answer bad myself, but dianne will kill us I don't sweat dianne.
I say and by the way listeners i have to apologize because dianne is not here She's usually the one that keeps us from evolving into 12 year old boys So we're gonna try to be our 12 year old men So we'll have to see if cleave being here will help keep us in line because dianne's not here to moderate us and keep us under control All right, so since we do have cleave here and we're taking up his valuable time on a wednesday evening Let's introduce him and kind of let's talk about his case a little bit And we've got some pvp's that we're gonna play from his case By the time this podcast airs i don't have it up yet But there's substantial video that cleave has captured in his home And i've compiled that into a youtube video that will also be posted on our site along with a case study with pictures that we've gotten from that residence And so after you hear this podcast you can go to wisps.org wisps.org or wisps utah.org will take you to the same place Do you have that still photo of me? I did his residence I mean that's an amazing photo and that is gonna go from the case study as long as well as the photo the shadow figure that's following me in the photograph Um, there's this particular case has got just a grumble of evidence it does And it's been how long has it been going on actually over 20 years over 20 years? Let's let's see if we can that start at the beginning and you noticed it from the first that you moved in right It was about two weeks. I think after I moved in that the first little incident happened and it's just been ongoing So just tell us a little bit about what happened when you when you first moved in and what kind of things you first started to see and experience The very first thing that happened to me because there was about a couple of weeks after I had moved in And I want to preface this by saying at that time I honestly didn't believe in this kind of stuff.
I just thought it was all phony and Seriously, I wonder who's have done anybody like that. Yeah gosh. Hey, what what Well, I can't I can't fault anybody for that because I was the same way Um, if people would come to me back then with the stories that I'm telling I'd be like dude. There's medications for that, right?
That's the medication right? But no after a couple of weeks what happened was I came home from work And I walked in the kitchen and had my keys in my hand and I said I'm on my kitchen counter And I continued on down to the bedroom to change my clothes now can let me stop you real quick now When you're in this home, are you there alone? Are you there a family? No, I'm alone.
Okay, okay? So there's nobody else in the house no family over no friends over right? Okay, nobody so I start going down the hallway And I hear my keys jingle and I thought when that happens you think how somebody follow me in the house or what's going on? Let me ask you one quick question for you.
Did you stop cutting him off? Seriously? Seriously, no, I'm just trying to just I'm trying to paint a picture for the listeners here So now we there's no family there. There's no friends.
Is there a dog or cat that can add like a jingley leash or something? No, just you Listeners were sorry if castle doesn't talk for five seconds. He has to need to start blurting things out. It's like to read Let him tell his story Okay, sorry.
I just want to get those things out of the way to get to kind of debunk those up front if you will I like that word you pumped it so anyway I decided not to go back out in the kitchen So I went into the bedroom change my clothes And I came back out and I looked over on the counter to get my keys to hang them up on the board and they were gone And when that happens, it just kind of shocks you know, you think how am I getting dementia or what's so I looked around and my keys were Actually across the kitchen by the fridge in an area that I had not even been to before And seriously, I thought I'm getting Alzheimer's I'm getting dementia or something because I just stood there for five minutes thinking Why would I even go over there? I knew I hadn't but you tried to debunk all this and I'm up with a logical explanation rationalize it all out. Yeah, but Unfortunately on some of these things there is no rational explanation. So I just kind of blew that off thinking I'm just getting stupid But um, this time went on more and more of these incidents would happen And each time it would happen again, I'm thinking I'm getting something dementia because It just isn't normal behavior for these things to happen I remember you tell me about how you have a broom that you leave just inside for inside use And if you have a second broom that you have out in the garage for just the garage use and your broom from the house Which would always be hanging up the same spot was missing one day And I think you said it took like a week or two to find it But then you found it in the garage on the shelf and a place that you would have never put it Yeah, it was in an area that I had never even been near and there was no reason for it to ever be out there And again, nobody lives in the house except for me So that was the second incident that actually happened And it's time went on things like that would start to happen and one thing I've learned with these things is They come and go I mean, I remember going through stages of like a couple of months when there was nothing I had absolutely no activity at all and then something would Stir them up and I never could figure out what it was but all of a sudden they'd be back with the vengeance Doing all kinds of stuff and And as time went on over the whole 20 year period even though it was off and on every time they would come back They would be a little a little heavier that'd be worse worse things would happen So the activity is kind of ramping up the nature of what it was Right, right The more obvious stuff And it went on and on and I never told anybody I wasn't going to let anybody know that it was crazy or Thought it was crazy so I didn't tell anybody But the first incident that happened to me that made me Totally understand that there was something there I got up in the morning when they hadn't used the toilet I stood in front of my mirror and I have a little eyedropper or I have to put drops in my eyes And I picked this little bottle up and I got to about right here And that's over high-facial right that bottle was ripped out of my hand 900 miles an hour and a straight line across me and directly into the toilet The toilet was still swirling and that bottle was so accurate.
It didn't even touch the water It just was gone. It's nothing but net right Three points And I just stood there frozen like this like with your fingers still I did because it happened like in one second I think what the hell was that there was no way to debunk that or try to rationalize that now But how long have you been in house at this point? I would say about two months So it wasn't like a couple years. I mean it was like yeah It was pretty quick and after that is when all the other stuff started happening and I still I still never told anybody about it.
I guess I was kind of embarrassed about it I don't know how to explain it but I just all keep it to myself Fortunately friends started noticing things and that was kind of my saving factor because her sense of that happening This was about a year later a friend of mine flew up here from me. No, she wanted to stay over for the weekend and We were sitting downstairs and we were watching TV I shut the TV office probably about 10 o'clock at night And we were talking and all of a sudden we heard my sliding glass doors in the kitchen open and shut and footsteps across the kitchen floor Yeah, and you were downstairs in the basement. Yeah, okay. There's only couch in my friends is who the hell's just walking in your house at 10 o'clock at night?
And I didn't know I said well, it's probably my son By to say hi, so I saw a go up and see what's going on So I went upstairs kitchen was dark the curtains were closed the levelers were closed the window the windows in the door was locked Nobody around but it was so clear and so evident I knew somebody was in the house So I went there and I and I walked in the hole upstairs and nothing so I had to go downstairs and she said who was it? And I said There was nobody and she just kind of looked at me like he lions You can't believe it. Yeah, well, I got to that point. So I just kind of brushed it off I said I we probably just thought we heard something but we really didn't but I knew we did so it was like 15 minutes later There was this huge crash up on my kitchen.
It honestly sounded like My kitchen cabinets had hit the floor. Wow that bad. It just shook the house. Really?
She started crying and clung into the blanket. I said I'll go see where it is. I go upstairs and nothing was actually nothing Was there anything broken? No, nothing.
Wow evidence of anything and this was just massive An I never came back to my house again. I had to go to Reno to see her but So so what's the most interesting thing that you can think of off top of your head that's ever happened there? What's what's the What's the biggest impression that you've had? Okay, good question.
So I wanted to scare me the most I have seen black shadow figures my friends have seen black shadow figures But this particular incident Was where I think it really set home that I was living with something pretty scary I was asleep and at that time I had a friend that was rending a room from me and it's about three o'clock in the morning And my friend came home from work and I must have woke me up because I remember looking up in and he was in his bedroom I have to light on but I looked up at the door right above the door frame. There was like a mist What color was the mist? It was just like a white kind of a foggy tight mist Yeah, I mean I knew I'd been asleep, but I could see it and as I was looking in this mist I swore I could see Santa Claus And I thought what the hell so I reached over really quick and I turned on my infrared camera Now let me just stop next to a quick question Now when say see Santa Claus, I mean we talking like red suit and bells we're talking like a face of a beard A face with white hair white beard white mustache now for the listeners now Is this the I believe you give me a photo that you captured of the same kind of figure right? And that will be posted on that case study And it it's kind of terrifying with him.
It's kind of a face with a beard and anyway I didn't mean to interrupt your eyes want to clarify that for the listeners. That's good I should have been that but it was just the face just the face alone floating up in this mist And the infrared camera was on it was taking pictures No real quick most people Let me interrupt you again. Let me interrupt you again. I'm just clarifying things for the listeners So now explain infrared cameras.
Why are there infrared cameras in your house? I purchased the infrared cameras because There to me, it's about the only way I've been able to catch anything the infrared will capture orbs. They'll capture The black shadow figures. They'll capture just about anything So you've got these just because all the activity sets up in your house to kind of catch stuff to show people you're not crazy Yeah, I was so convinced that they were there.
I wanted proof. I wanted solid proof. Okay I got it. Anyway, as I was looking at this thing of course, I'm rubbing my eyes and I'm looking at it The face was actually retracting back into this fog Like it was disappearing and the next day when I looked at the footage The scariest picture I've ever gotten was this Santa Claus face You can clearly see the center of the face with the nose and the eyes and it's laughing you can see it's white teeth And as a pictures progress, you can see it going behind this veil It's like there's a thin curtain and it's like this this face is going behind the veil So the best picture has the center of his face and then the veil's on the side of it And it's a pretty clear picture.
The hair on my arm is just totally standing up listening to that story That kind of creeping out too waking up in the middle of night and seeing something like that have around you to be fair You are sitting under the vent and there's cold air below it's not the vent. I'm sweating always the skeptic So then what happened with that after that? Well, I saved the pictures And because that was such a solid evidence I decided I needed to get somebody there to help me figure out what it was and this has been about three four years ago I think I got ahold of a paranormal group in Salt Lake. They came down and there's five of them They did a quick walk through the house one of them refused to go down the basement They said she said I will never go down that basement Anyway, they they all sensed that there was something very negative there And they said they wanted to come back into a full investigation now with uh Then I want to go in the basement has that been like a centered activity in the basement or has it been more upstairs?
There's been any particular area in the home there's been more activity than others Um, for me myself the most of the activity has either been in the kitchen or it was downstairs in the family room There's a washer washer room. I've never really sensed anything in there There's another bedroom downstairs. I've never sensed anything in there and this is the basement Yeah in the basement So so basically the kitchen in the family room downstairs have been the two hot areas in the garage There's always been kind of a hot area as well Since I think the grass currently stole a bit of a hot area Yeah, I've still got orbs flying around there So when did you buy the infrared camera system? When did you install that and get all that uh set up in your home?
Probably four years ago. Okay. Yeah, so about the same time paranormal group roughly. Yeah, it was right after It was either right after it must have been uh before Because I got there sent a close face and then I called them so I had them just like right before okay So anyway, they said we're coming back tomorrow night We're gonna spend the whole entire night and we're gonna find out what these things are and they did They came back and they were there from seven o'clock at night till I'll be about three thirty four o'clock in the morning and The whole the whole episode was um just horrific They started catching orbs all over the house And without camera or naked eye or both or cameras they just regular cameras.
They were catching them Uh and some some pretty strange things and one of the ladies. It's a sensitive Went back in the back bedroom and she said you've got a portal right here on your floor And so they start taking pictures there and they did get we don't know what it was But one of the pictures has like some white stripes right across the portal that weren't there the previous picture By the one after we don't know what they were but so I thought that was kind of interesting that she discovered this portal So in that they took all the pictures we All sat down in the living room. They had their EVP recorders And we probably captured 50 at least class a EVPs have you described to them in different classes? Yeah, we talked about that a little bit on the last uh was the last podcast I think so one of the last two One of the podcast we talked about the class locations.
They asked you the spirit box as well Didn't they yeah, they did but you heard really just clear crisp EVP responses to questions you're asking I would say 50 of the ones that are even recorded we heard with our own ears When they were strong that's how strong it was wow and what was really interesting is when they started asking and by the way I need to clarify these were direct responses the questions. It wasn't like rambling talking Excuse me. They were direct responses every one of them Once they started asking questions One of the questions they asked was How many of the of you are there here? And there was actually two male responses one said five and the other one said eight they were different voices but they were clearly male voices and um We asked if they were all male or if they were all female we got response on that directly and During the responses there was a little girl that responded very clear cute little girl voice and uh the leader of the investigative team asked me she says So how old is a little girl?
And she directly responded back and said seven and we got that on recording And then they said uh, can you tell us your name? And right off the bat she responded and said cypress just clear as heck And they asked her one more question and she started to actually talk in senate in a sentence But one of the other ladies was talking over it so it kind of muffled up I hated when people talk over other people trying to tell stories. No, that's just so wrong So um anyway it went on and on we um had talked to Four or five different males who left us their name We were trying to find out why they were there because we were told that there was a concentration camp You know not too far from there So that was one of the questions that was asked you know, were you part of this concentration camp like a Japanese internment? I can't Okay, and uh one of the Team members said well, why are you why were you there?
And a male responded very clearly and said I was innocent and we got that on evp as well So we probably got 50 or 60 of them um the the whole air and the feeling in that place was just so horrific Very negative. I can't even describe it. I think everybody left with depression that night, but So the next morning They left and and I got up the next morning and I went downstairs and I had an aquarium down there that I've had for about five years And I looked over the aquarium and I could see something was really wrong So I turned the light on and every fish in that aquarium was dead And I have had these fish for you know anywhere from three to five years and every one of them were dead And I thought what the hell is this? So when I got lucky and I took the top off the aquarium and something had turned the heater up to 100 degrees Wow, and it basically boiled them So one of these entities were pissed that we were there I guess and didn't want us there so I lost all my fish And after that the activity got really bad.
There was a lot of uh, I would I would actually hear voices I got a really strange phone call It was probably six months after my friend that heard the noises on the kitchen the one from right now Yeah, it was like six months after that um, I came up at work And she had passed away. She had been gone for a couple of three months, but there was a um voice recording on my on my um Entry machine and I went to play it and it was this friend And she was singing some weird song Wow, that just freaked me out and I not only recognize her voice, but I have a nickname beaver No cleaver beaver and she always called me beave while she was singing the song part of it She said my name twice Now I don't know if that was really her or if it's one of these entities presenting themselves Which they can do which they can't and they did do I think in all of these cases I don't think there ever was a little girl there. I think this was just one of these demonics presenting themselves That's what I would have assumed to yeah, just for the listeners and I'm gonna bump ahead for just a second Uh having investigated cleaves house the entities that are there in his home are very very very dark entities very nasty So the likelihood of that actually being a little bit of probably pretty slim based on just evidence We've collected and consistent with you know cleaves opinion that that voice recording probably wasn't actually his friend something Making his friend and I have some own some my own experiences from a cleaves house that we'll get into later in the story Uh, but where I've had my phone manipulated and been sent messages and whatnot that are uh, along with this case Yeah, while uh, while cleave was talking to I showed half a this picture That that was actually taken at cleaves house and uh, you said that you would have it on the uh, the web page It actually is up there already but I'm gonna put it on the case study page as well Okay, it's it's about a three quarters profile of me from behind But on the other half of the picture kind of in the shadow You can see clear definition of a mouth eyes A face shape and it looks like there's even in the corn so it's a very ominous looking Yeah, it's skeletal and it's it's making a growl. I mean you can don't see Uh, teeth and I want to say they're the canine looking teeth.
You can see uh, it looks like a horn on its head It's just a nasty scary looking photo and it's it was from our initial walkthrough of cleaves house and it was captured on his Cameras and you made a still photo out of it and afforded castle and he forwarded to me And it's one of the best photos I think that I've ever seen of something dark like this before And I've been to cleaves house both with the team and I've made a couple other uh, So I've been to cleaves house probably half a dozen times, you know with various Either team members are taking some mediums over there to try and help alleviate the problems and build problems And I've also got another really good photo that was captured on cleaves camera that shows a shadow figure Clearly following me which I'll also have up on that uh case study. Yeah, I've never seen that. That's that's pretty good too Now here's the picture of the face the Santa Claus face that we caught and I'll make sure I get that put up there Oh, wow. Yeah, you can definitely see like the mouth eyes.
He's laughing. Yeah, no, that's that's that's spooky Yeah, okay. Okay. He's he's gonna do a bucket here for us I don't even really see what like I see what you're talking about but Problem is is with the human mind it sees what it wants to see there's always make faces out of this There's always the possibility of pare dellie, which is that making the faces?
But again, I'm the kind that I agree pare dellie. I mean I debunked one of our I've debunked several of our own photos, but uh at the same time when you take it in concert with all the other evidence It's kind of hard to dismiss. This this almost looks like a light. Is that a light?
Nope, where was that taken? That was uh at the top of a door frame And this photo will be on that case study page as well. Yeah, I think we should have the other listeners Just like what they see. Yeah, I'd be interested to hear some input.
Yeah, um, so after your fish died then what All right, well, I guess what the phone message is where we left off. Yeah, we had the full message and then um Just constant nagging things going on if I would go downstairs Uh, I don't know if I just fine-tuned myself to these things, but I could feel them all around me Like I was being pushed out of the room. They didn't want me there I can't tell you how many times walking up the stairs. I knew something was behind me You know pushing me to get out of that basement.
Have you ever had any of these things follow you outside the home? I have and that's a whole that's a whole other story um, I have two homes and Um, the place that I have up in heber has always been my sanctuary had been for seven eight years But all of a sudden things started happening up there Um, and it got so ugly that I finally had to realize that these things were attaching to me and follow me up there as well So the things that happened up there were entirely different than what I witnessed in the house Excuse me And not too long ago. I think it was last fall I went up on a friday and I walked in And something drew me towards the bathroom on the main floor. Now let me uh Stop for a second.
Let me interrupt you. Well, I know the stories and so I just want to make sure there's certain facts We get in there to help the listeners. Uh now the second home of yours is actually cabin crack And when you're not up there, how's it secured? Is there any way for anybody to get into that without you knowing about it?
No, all of the windows and doors have steel gates on them. There's no way anybody could get through them. So by the way, somebody get in I mean you'd see a great big hole in the wall or something to offer. Okay, so anyway, I walked in there and Looked over towards the bathtub and basically went in shock There was dried blood all over the tile around the bathtub.
Wow Uh, you could see where blood to drain down into the drain and I've got pictures of all this Wow, I put some photos of that on the case today. That is crazy And of course, you know, I'm just standing there with chills thinking what is this? Uh, the first thing I thought well, there's gonna be a dead animal somewhere It's gotta be something but absolutely nothing nor were there any blood tracks on the floor or anywhere And I walked out in the kitchen and the kitchen countertop also was covered with blood It actually ran under the microwave. Wow.
You know, I'm through this day. I don't know where it came from There was never any animals in there. There's no way an animal that size could have got in there anyway So there's the multiple things happening up there A lot of knocks on the walls. I got scratched because I got pissy with them one day I've got pictures of three big scratches on my leg that showed up.
They were like a welt I was downstairs watching tv by myself. Nobody else was in there and I heard in a ceiling over in the corner of these really heavy scratches Like something the size of a raccoon But I finished that room and there's there's not a square inch up there. Nothing could even get up in there I knew what it was and I guess I just got pissed and I went over there and I'm like, yeah, us'll be Why don't you you know show me yourself and stop being such a chicken that kind of stuff And about five feet away on the ceiling there was three loud knocks And it scared the hell out of me. I actually closed the cabin up and went home because it was it was that evident And again, it's time when I'd have friends up there.
We were up there I'd been up there 24 hours and couple of friends come up and we were watching tv I went upstairs to get some drinks and the water was gone. There was no water Something's wrong with the development water. It's shut up. I went downstairs in the Water heater room and the main valve to the water had been completely shut off And my friends have never been in there.
They didn't they wouldn't know there's 12 valves They wouldn't know what to turn anyway. And you said you'd been there for 24 hours already at that point? I've never used all the water. Yeah, it was shut completely off So it's just been a myriad of things like that.
I've had Stuff moved up there. I got a pillow that while I was in the shower was taking off the couch and moved six feet away on the floor And it's actually been pretty clearly. I haven't had anything going on up there The reason I know these things were follow me is back to the infrared cameras At home I went downstairs and I didn't turn the light on it I don't know why but I went down to make sure that I had shut off my subwoofer And the cameras caught me moving and it took some pictures of me And when I got looking at the pictures the whole side of my face around the back of my neck had something white on it And when you blow that up you can see these de Santa Claus man is there And there are other demonic faces in there and a hand with spikes on it And so I just assumed they were attaching to me and going where I'm going. So wow Now let me hop back to the your dead fish.
What did you end up doing about that? Did you call it a group back or what happened with that? What we did as a cleansing they didn't come back They sent a lady down that spent probably two or three hours doing a cleansing on all the way through and it didn't make any difference at all What did she do if I She did several things she was burning the sage and she had the Bible almost quoting certain things out of the Bible And no raising the hand like we've done those kinds of things, but just didn't seem to do any good No, did you have any other groups coming after that? Just the whisk group.
Okay. Now I you did give me a spirit box Evp from another group where they ask about the fish That was that was was that the lady who came into the cleansing? Yeah, okay. Let's uh, let's take a second Let's play that for everybody so they can hear that Like there's actually two let's let's do the fish one first Did you kill his fish?
Did you kill his fish Did you kill his fish? I should probably explain before you go too far into that that what you guys are here in there is a spirit box And so you kind of hear that and that's FM radio stations that are cycling at roughly Uh about 10 stations per second. Uh and basically the theory is that spirits can use that white noise to communicate Um, I think I've talked about it before on other episodes I used to use the spirit box a lot. I found that uh, it seems to kind of draw negative entities I don't usually use it as much anymore But you can hear the woman in that and that's the woman who did the cleansing But you can hear her ask to do kill his fish and hear that yes, just really quick over the or the evp So i'm gonna ask the skeptic thoughts on on that I heard that I heard no s sound at the end of that word Let's play one more time.
All right Did you count his fish? Did you count his fish? Did you count his fish? So you can hear her say there, you know, did you kill his fish and you hear a little bump and that's just the audio being turned up You can hear the answer more clearly and to me I thought that I heard almost like I did like it's really short and cut off or I can't hurt it.
Yeah, they're almost like they're dead Yeah, but there's clearly an answer there and it's an affirmative answer either way. I'm getting a look from half a I'm getting a look. It's the same thing as the theory with seeing faces. You hear what you want to hear fair enough But you gotta realize there's 10 stations that are cycling under that quick answer you pregout five or six different radios That's the problem too is you got all these stations that are cycling How do you know one of the stations didn't take something up and that I think Is a possibility but you gotta realize they're cycling so fast that it's unlikely to be a single station that would have that long answer the timing would have to be so perfect Yeah, and either way to take it for what it is.
Yeah, exactly. So what happened after her after her cleansing? What will happen? Um actually not a whole lot.
There wasn't really any changes the negative feelings were still there Events were continuing to happen. So basically null and void nothing really and then the activity just Continued until it was they studied it ramp up It was it was fairly steady at that point, but I want to mention that since I've been in my house. I have had 12 floods Something likes to mess with water and Almost every one of the floods that I had were kind of unexplainable. There really wasn't a valid reason why it was happening So what happened right after that was I went downstairs.
It's probably a couple months later in the basement was full of water And here we go again. So what had happened was one of the drain pipes in the wall and split for no reason of the ppc Bite or no reason to split and water had gone everywhere So we had to start turning the basement apart obviously to get it fixed and That really set these things off. They just got pissed. Apparently they don't like changes and All kinds of things started to happen just bizarre things that there's absolutely no explanation for I went downstairs the morning after one of the walls was torn out and I looked up At the window and I have some of these levelers exactly like this Only they have a a metal header on them.
That's clamped in little clamps That that metal header had been pulled out of the clamps and was stuck on the wall right up to the ceiling like it was glued there And nobody could even get near that window because there was cabinets and Why would somebody do that? So that I tore your blinds off mood and basically kind of not the blinds just the metal headers One of these things these slats right had been pulled out of the clamps and the and the slat was stuck I've got a picture of it actually just stuck on the wall. There was nothing holding it there It was just there and when I say there's freaky shit going on This is what I'm talking about like how do you come up with an explanation for that? And all kinds of things happened um and just to play like the devil's advocate You know if there's someone were to do it, why would you do something like that?
I would do it and how would you and how would you I went over and I just touched it and it fell I to the state. I don't know what was holding me. It was just bizarre And the next day and it was probably the worst event I've ever had I went out in the garage on my porch and I was in my toolbox and I had set a can of paint Um on the corner and just gone down a bodid at home depot And I was in my toolbox Looking for a tool and all of a sudden I heard the bag rattle and out of the corner of my eyes this paint can which was a court size paint can Come up out of that bag over about six inches and shot down straight down Nine hundred miles an hour and it hit it exploded paint went all the way across my garage covered my convertible top totally trash in my car And I as much as I hate to admit it that scared me so bad I started crying I think I had reached a breaking point My car was ruined my garage floor was ruined. It was all over my highlander and it just at that point I didn't know what else I could do Well, how long ago was that?
I would say it was probably a few months before I had you guys come over. Okay, so fairly recently, yeah So at that point, I just I was ready to give up. What do you do? How do you fight him?
So stuff continued on at the cabin as well Except for now the cabin's been really clear. Yeah, it's been really clear. I am catching weird white white orbs Um when castle sent me the text message other day. It was like four o'clock Um, I got a warning on my phone from the camera in my bedroom and I opened it in at the same time He sent the text pretty close.
They caught a big white orb, a cylindrical shaped orb playing to my bedroom Yeah, and I'll do that photo as well in case studies. Uh, there's actually for the listeners There's gonna be a significant number of photos Uh pretty lengthy youtube video of various items that have been caught on those infrared cameras Now you really did a story when we first came over. Uh, I'd like to share if you don't mind sure And I think it's when you had a renter in the room and if I remember at your sleeping in bed and something happened to you that uh, oh, yeah Well, many things happened with him Um, one of the first things that happened was and I had not told him anything about anything about anything. So it was just I don't know So he called me at work one day and he said, um I just woke up and I grabbed my phone out of the bathroom because it was charging and he said I went to call somebody And he said when I open the phone he said there's three or four pictures on there I did not take and I don't know what they are.
They're bizarre looking. I thought oh, shit. Here we go So I said okay, remember that security deposit here. Yeah, I can't know back.
I said send him to me And when I opened them They they were just absolutely bizarre the first one I opened And again when we can talk about pare tolea or whatever but what I saw was a dead face The picture was all red and yet there's a dead face. You can see their eyes closed. Okay about that one as well I think you do um There was a picture of the Santa Claus man. You can see his beard his white hair his eyes his nose The other one was really freaky bizarre.
It wasn't red. It was white But if you look at it, you can see these demonic faces. There's several of them in this picture There also is a picture of a little girl Um side view ever face. I I hadn't even seen that somebody else noticed it But it's a little girl with dark hair probably about six seven years old That really freaked my rent around it freaked me out that that was starting to happen There were several times when I should say several that was twice that he came to me and he said Can you hear that lady humming?
And I'm like no I had heard it before but not then so he was hearing some lady in the house. I mean And that kind of freaked him out. I says it's probably just somebody outside. You know, you try to lose land of course So yeah, I think and then another time I was in my room asleep And he knocked on the door and he said hey said did you move this picture in the hallway?
And I've got a really big picture real heavy one of king tat and it's probably four feet Two and a half feet really heavy and he said what do you mean did I move it? He's like well, why is it on its side? And I said it's not supposed to be so I got up and went out and it had been turned And I thought I said did you just bump it and you walk down the hall? I said no I hadn't touched it and as heavy as it is there's no way you could just bump it and get it to move the way it did It had to physically be picked up and turned And that freaked and then he started having problems out in the yard I knew there was a lot of stuff in the backyard because we cut several orbs and I've had freaky stuff happen out there too But he he had several incidents out there and I think he just got tired of it and went out and I'm playing I should be the one leaving but I'm still there Now you had an extent where you got attacked one morning.
Did you or you were laying in bed and something happened to you? Oh, yeah, yeah, he told us a little bit about that. Yeah, and this was this has been quite a while ago Years ago actually and it was actually at night It was about 10 o'clock and I had done a bed. It was laying on the top of my bed And very comfortable and my renter had gotten up and he was in his shower And something came over me.
I don't to this day. I don't know what it was. It was like something heavy was laying on top of me Uh, I could not move a single muscle. I could not open my eyes It was like something I'd just taken over my whole body.
So you were actually conscious, but you just you couldn't move. Yes It wasn't like sleep paralysis. Oh, was it? No, no, it was just freaky and I remember fighting at whatever it was I was trying to fight this.
I was trying to get my eyes open. I was trying to move And the only thing I really remember very clearly is there was these demonic growls coming out of me These weird growly noises and it must have been loud enough my renter knocked on my door and as soon as he did it's like boom gone And he said you okay? And I said, yeah, I was probably just having a bad dream. He said you're making some freaky noises And I said sorry, I just probably had a bad dream, but it was not it was very real.
It wasn't a bad dream So yeah, I forgot about that so much about that. Now when you call that was Or any specific event that prompted you to call us or how did that kind of come about? Mm I think it was just because the events were getting stronger. It wasn't anything major like a major event It was just little things I was getting tired of another pain can all this I just started dealing with it And so I just started doing some research and somebody recommended you guys and to me every you were Oh, thank you.
You've been awesome and a major difference. So and I think it was interesting that brandy honed down that same portal And stare without telling her well that was actually I thought that was really interesting and we learn our first yes I thought you were yeah, um that particular night if I remember we took both brandies with us We have two mediums in her name brandy and I believe if I remember I think I got there first Yeah, was there anybody with me? Was it just me? I think I got there first and uh and I did kind of initial walk through the house And what I thought was really interesting that I came into the house You could feel kind of a pressure and if you do these investigations long enough you kind of feel Uh spirit energy for lack of better work.
I shouldn't say everybody can but you get a little more sensitive A lot of people get more sensitive to spiritual energy fine tune yourself And so you kind of recognize it for what it is after you've been on enough investigations if you're able to feel spirit energy and most people are some people Aren't some people aren't as we're staring at him mentioned Um, I feel your mom's energy. My mom's the same That's what you think so it's positive energy Anyway, uh as I remember right, uh, I came into the living room I didn't really feel much but then I went down to uh, what was the master bedroom at home? Yeah, and I could feel a very negative strong presence there in the bedroom a very heavy presence Um, and then after that I you know went through the kitchen and then downstairs and as I walk downstairs I could feel a really strong heavy presence all through that living room area where you watch movies where you're at with your friend Yeah, I'm not sensitive at all But I remember mentioning to castle when we got downstairs to the the family room where your tv is in the couches I could even feel something just it's just feel impressive. Yeah, where the heavy presence you felt from Santa Claus get it presence All right get out You get out I'm gonna have to talk with your wife.
Yeah Um, anyway, but you could feel it really strong down there. Um, you know, there's there one or two bedrooms down there Just two there's there's a bathroom and then there's that bathroom and there's the I call the treadmill room Yeah, and then there's the the the bobby dog room RCA bigger Don't be Anyway, but you could feel it really strong down there Um, at that point I went upstairs and went for the rest of the team to arrive and I can't remember what order the team arrived in but brandy b Who's a medium she arrived shortly thereafter? And as soon as she walked in the front door she goes, oh, can you feel that I could feel it from from the front door? Um, and she came in and a short time later brandy p also arrived She walked in brandy b goes can you feel that and brandy b said yeah, I could feel that from the driveway You know as soon as I put it in front of the house and it's interesting because I when I walk through and can feel that spirit energy I'm not a psychic or a medium or anything like that I can I can feel spirit energy Um, and I have kind of fun on investigations basically pitting what I feel and against what the brandy's yeah bouncing off what they already know Yeah, and so I was kind of interested to see what they would say based on what I had felt You know and again the basement both of them walking on the basement like yeah The both of them made a beeline to that the treadmill room the bedroom Which is the one that cleave talked about the woman said there was a portal there did she say why she thought there's a portal there?
No, she just said there was a portal there. So we got into the we got into the bedroom and there's a treadmill set up in the middle of the room And both the brandies were saying you know, it's it's something underneath the treadmill So we lifted that up and I actually I think you've seen the footage that I have on my camera But I said a k2 meter on the floor and I recorded it and you can see it just kind of spiking just up and down up and down just no constant Uh, it wasn't constant, you know, like if you move a k2 meter close to electrical outlet Then you'll get a constant reading but this was just on the middle of a cement floor in the middle of the room It was still chaotic and sporadic exactly but as continuous but it was all over the case all over the place It'd be it'd peg all the way to red. It would peg in the middle half way turn off for just a fraction of a second Exactly. Now and interestingly enough, I was a big skeptic on portals.
I was the heffee of portals Up until this point. Don't ever compare yourself to me again. I want them twice as awesome If I awesome you mean strange and weird and awesome. Awesome.
Not awesome Yes, I agree, but I was you know, I've heard a lot of people talk about portals But to this point to be honest with you, I was always kind of a portal skeptic, you know, there's a portal there. Okay, sure Whatever you're smoking pest this way, please I wasn't quite dismissive of them, but I hadn't seen anything beyond somebody say so to validate them in any way shape or form I had seen any evidence to that point that would say okay portals do exist You know, I've been to a sign on 49 and say oh, they're a portal in this hallway. Okay, sure. Sure.
Whatever. You know, my k2 meter is not doing anything Whatever you're telling me And that's what I was fascinating because both brandies like you said so there's something they actually if I remember they both saw a shadow figure Go underneath the treadmill and disappear essentially. Yeah, and so we moved that we picked up the treadmill moved it aside And they both identified a portal on the floor where you put down that k2 meter and it was going crazy I think they said that they could see things coming in and out of the random saying they were flying in and out of there Yeah, they were totally demonic. Yeah, they said they were here in latin Italian and several languages profanity emanating out of this portal now what I found was interesting And I wish we were recorded a little bit more this I didn't know we hadn't because I was too busy playing with the portal but pervert Anyway I I found if I put my hand and this is gonna sound really kooky But like I said, I was kind of playing experimenting if I put my hand where uh, they said this portal was at and I focused And I again, it sounds goofy, but I just I was focusing positive energy through my hand if that makes sense in it But the k2 would stop and it would say stop and would move the minute I took my hand where we're focusing The k2 would just start going crazy again, which I thought was fascinating that I could Concentrate on the recorder though.
I know and I was kind of mad when I found out we had not like angry anybody specific But just one of those why didn't I think of that because I was the first experience that we'd had with portals I was my first experience with one and I was one that you could quantify exactly exactly. Exactly. Um Anyway, we were actually able to close that portal uh that night temporarily Um, but let me let's play some EVPs that we caught there that particular night. Um, there's one EVP that I probably should have played earlier But I didn't this is from the cleansing that uh cleave had done at this house by the previous investigation group And this is another spirit box EVP Um, and this one you're gonna hear die cleave is what you hear on there.
So let's play that one I might walk around my energy I might walk around my energy I might walk around my energy Yeah, I can clearly hear die. Yeah, no cleave. Let's don't add stuff that's on there and It's a little cut off. I can hear pretty clear.
It goes to magically get cut off when they talk Well, it's whoever edited that you can get clean. Yeah, I can see where did it I might have a full one I'll have to check the ones you can find it and I would credit that group But I don't know who that group is so whichever group captured those two god bless you Give me credit, but I know we are um So those are not both of those are ones that was didn't capture now. Let's play a couple that we did capture And I don't know that you've ever heard these people. I don't think I had them um and these are from uh From when we the night that we came the first time and interestingly enough our first visit to your house was what?
20 minutes tops. I mean it was a short visit. Yeah, it wasn't very long If I remember right it was kind of an emergency visit Yeah, actually had some stuff going on and so it was just kind of I think we had an investigation later that night at the family tree If I were right. Yeah, we had that was maybe the second or third We had two or three things going on that night just busy night.
That was for instantly because I remember we went to like three different places Was that we need to get there? We need to get there quick? So we kind of went in identified the problem and dealt with it and we actually did deal with it for a short time I you didn't have activity for a couple months after that Well, and then oh, we'll get it. Let's play DVP's first Okay, this is an EDP that I actually captured uh and what you're gonna hear is you're gonna hear brandy B who's one of our mediums she's talking and behind her speaking of talking through the middle of an EDP Uh while she's talking you're gonna hear a really gravelly voice a speaking of the one Uh, so it's a full sentence, uh, but let's go ahead and play that now So So it sounds to me like it's saying speaking of the one and it's a really gravelly voice speaking of the one And heff a said that he thought it sounded like speaking of the devil.
I think it's just beatboxing All right, let's play one more time for listeners one more time for listeners So So what do you think speaking of the one or speaking of the devil? But They're just trying to sing with you cleave No, that'd be an awesome youtube video Get some boats and ghosts in there Hey, we kind of harmonize it That was good Not to get too far off topic, but we need to take dancing ghosts and put it on youtube for the listeners to see I don't know dancing ghosts is awesome. If I awesome you mean not awesome. No, no, it's pretty awesome It's a fun video we made several years ago and by we I mean if a All right, the next one Yeah, is an EVP obviously since that's what we're doing is EVP's And let me preface this one at this point.
We've identified there is one human spirit We've seen a lot of shadow figures a lot of spirits that way identify as non human spirits and cleaves house at this point So I want to interject interject with the story. Yeah, I like stories. Have you ever heard of bear talk? I can't believe I got an EVP of a bear I don't speak bear I don't speak or a dog EVP Actually, I do have a dog EVP.
Sweet. I want to hear that and it was at a private location. It was at a I think the best word that we have to use for it is a cemetery. It's a privately owned Should I say funeral home?
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's privately owned funeral home and at one point we were talking and you can hear A dog bark and people even say was that a dog was it the neighbor's dog? No, it was in the middle of the building and Which is located in the middle of a cemetery, so you can't hear anything outside. You can't hear anything outside I'd have to be there to judge for myself now back on track Anyway, this particular EP there was one human spirit that was there in the home that we identified We had the two mediums there and it's kind of cool watching them work together And you know here and what they were saying with each other because they're both seeing things and it was it's kind of again You'd have to have been there to see the synergy between the two of them But there was a human spirit and they they were both under the impression that he had was somehow involved in the opening of this portal initially Probably when he had been alive, but he was a negative human spirit And at this point of the EDP we're talking about getting rid of him Brandy B is trying to convince the spirit to cross over and she's she's not very happy And you can kind of hear that thing and basically she says something effective You know you can cross over or we're gonna make you leave this place in the sense of what she's telling the spirit And for those who know Brandy B, she's kind of fiery once she gets worked up And so she's a little worked up at this point, but you're gonna hear her say, you know, you can you can leave or will make you leave essentially And you're gonna hear an EVP I think I'll stay Is what you're gonna hear so let's go ahead and listen to that And I give him I send you any to go or you'll ever come back in here And I give him I said you want you to go or you'll ever come back in here And I give him I send you any to go or you'll ever come back in here So yes, it's very faint, but I can hear right at the end of here. I think I'll stay here I think I'll stay here And the listener should uh, this is one if you're listening in your car or work or something You're gonna have a hard time just hearing this right in the podcast But this is the kind where you're going to need headphones Or you're gonna want to trip you by a little bit bigger here or I'm gonna send you where you want to go And you hear I think I'll stay here.
And it's very faint And and heffa thinks that you know it could be someone I was talking to the background But we have a no whispering policy which is funny because when I went on a hunt with you guys I whispered a lot, you know, but if it's not identify go climb back in your ivory tower I was there I was there and I saw a lot of people mumble talk low whisper and it was it was never we try to attack And you try to get the best you can but to be honest with you sometimes if it's really obvious Hey Jeff and me that that's a kind of stuff I'm gonna recognize that and I agree with you Somebody's talking so low in a sense like this that it can't be discerned I can't I can't rule out that that could be somebody else talking quietly And that's fair but I was there on this one I know that that wasn't anybody and I was there too So I wasn't there and I don't believe you guys if I remember I don't people who were there was me lurch We're the only two males there and that's a male voice cleave. I don't think you were you down there at this point I must not have been because I haven't heard that yeah, I don't think you were there at this point I think you were upstairs doing something but it was me lurch two brandies. Mm-hmm. I Believe Tim was there I don't think Tim was downstairs with us.
No, I think Tim was upstairs with cleave actually and we had two other women with us So there's four women you and me at the time when this when this happened But anyway, so those are some of the EVPs I've caught and actually knows when I was putting this together tonight kind of getting together The evidence I had from Cleave's house I've actually got about an hour and a half of unlistened to audio which I need to get into it I would listen to ages go if I realized I don't get me started on unlistened audio Yes, it's so overwhelming. I don't even know where to start I think you mentioned that you have a an EVP that you want to share with us cleave Yeah, what happened was at this time the dead files were wanting to come in doing investigation in the home I'd send them all the evidence the producer had called me and her name was Carrie She's the only Carrie I've ever had any interaction with or really ever known with that particular name Oh, so you were actually contacted by the producer of the dead files. That's awesome. Right.
I chose to not let them come for Reasons but anyway One of the questions Or while they were asking questions this EVP came through that was a female and very clearly she says are you Carrie? So we're thinking that she thinks this is somebody from the dead files Hopefully I can play it Okay, so that sounds like a spirit box. That's like a whole sentence. That's about three seconds So you're looking at 30 FM stations and a second under that Yeah, I mean that's really clear and you can hear it scanning through the different stations as she's speaking Let's play one more time just for the listeners really clear.
Yeah, that one's probably one of the clear spirit box audio I've actually heard yeah So what happened after the wisdom came in as we actually that was the first portal that we had dealt with I mean was a tangible portal in that you could see physical evidence with well I guess not physical but electrical evidence with the K2 and we actually managed to close that portal and then cleave had of what was it About two months with no activity. It's pretty quiet one of the things I don't think we talked about is that you had mentioned I don't know how long you had lived in your house, but you said your bedroom was always cold and I think you said you've had space heaters Constantly going and it's never been a warm space. So just tell us a little bit about that I don't want to put words in your mouth. I want to hear directly from you right the bedroom My bedroom is located directly above where the portals located and it was always mean for 20 years It was always freezing even in the middle of summer.
It was always cold. There has been a lot of activity I have literally had the covers pulled off me during the night And I do have an infrared photo of that happening For some reason on the wall where the window is that's always been a very active area. There's been a lot of scratches a lot of three knocks I've had I've been touched. I've had my hair played with So there's been quite a bit of activity one thing I didn't mention that I found really interesting is whatever One of these are they're low to the ground and the reason I say that's because I've had the bottom of my pants Stugged on like it was something really small on the floor I walked into the kitchen one day and it felt like a dog brushed past me very clearly I felt it hit my leg and then the other incident was up to my cabin I walked in and as I was going across the carpet I tripped and the reason I tripped is it felt like I had wire Was being wrapped around my ankle.
I turned around to look because I thought maybe have I dropped some wires on the floor? Nothing there, but it was it was for real and so something is low to the ground I don't know if it's an animal or what but So your bedroom's always been cold up until the time that we were there and then we did what we did and and now It's been beautiful ever since awesome. It has been great about two months after we cleanse or not cleanse at home But close the portal I believe activity start happening again And there's some video and it'll be in the video they put together about the same time that we release this podcast of a shadow figure Actually going across in front of that treadmill on your infrared camera and we start seeing a warps again That we're starting to show up again on your infrared camera, right? And what other activity was going on?
We had the the blacks shadow figure that walked in the portal room But about the same time a friend of mine called I wanted to bring a DVD over it was about 10 o'clock at night And I said sure bring it over and he brought it over and when you walk along my sidewalk at the front of my house There's a window that you can see down into the basement and my aquarium was down there and Anyway rang the door bell I went to the door and he was standing there's a boy that was quick and I said well And he's like well, how did you get upstairs so quick? And I said I was just right here in the kitchen I wasn't downstairs And he just kind of went white and he's like please tell me you were just downstairs And I said I wasn't they said well I just saw a dark shadow walk in front of your aquarium So, you know, how do you respond to that? It's like oh that guy oh Roger. Yeah, no, so he wouldn't come in the house He's like down and going home, so but anyway, okay So that was and then and I'll wrap it up because I think we're starting a little bit long But I believe at that point I came over again with Randy B And I believe the portal still closed that time we came by right and then the next two start to pick up again Yeah, a little bit more we came by and I remember it was still open It was very reopened at that point.
You know, and that time we tried to close it and we couldn't right in fact We used several the methods that I've been taught, you know We even called serenity more and we could close it But it would instantly pop right back open it wouldn't stay closed Right and so that point we decided to set up a day and try and come back with some more tools and some other things to try See if we could reclose that and while this is going on I would get updates, you know emails text messages with new activity New photos new videos And eventually we came back again when we came back it was mostly closed It's probably the best way to describe it I came back with a brandy boo-lo and another person who came to help us who was dealt with some haunting issues of her own We'll have her on as a guest at another time And at that time we actually did a full-blown cleansing of the home, you know with the sage and some other things And tried some other methods on that portal that we weren't able to try that One night we came back and since then the activity's pretty much been pretty well subsided Pretty well subsided other than I know you kind of noreb the other day that you sent me a text message Actually interesting because I'd sent you text asking you come on the show when that activity started like almost immediately Didn't that leave yep, and I've actually been talking with Cleve now for a month planning on coming over making sure they're Everything's sealed up and so that's still on deck So hopefully we can close the door the rest of the way on that I think that we could spend so much more time just talking to you about all the things that have in your house I mean this is just fascinating years worth seriously I suspect I could probably make this in two or three shows if we really start again Yeah, but for the sake of gravity and the sake that if it looks like he's gonna snap my eyes out with a Del Fork no, I'm good. It's just it's a warm day. Yes. It is.
It drains the soul So yeah, maybe another time we could have you back and talk to you some more but I think in the meantime We'll just kind of call this good for right now I'm pretty excited because not this weekend but next weekend we're gonna be traveling to Colorado Actually through Wyoming we'll be staying at the or we'll be visiting the frontier prison while Rollins whiling and that's had some pretty good activity so much that the the staff even knows about and they've opened up to private investigation So we do that one night and then headed to us park Colorado to the Stanley Hotel and doing an investigation there And I'm just excited for that So we'll talk more about that in the next episode. Yeah, this is a trip We've actually had planned for months months. Yeah, and she'd be pretty good for those who don't know the Stanley Hotel is where the shining Was filmed back as it wasn't it wasn't filmed at the Stanley Hotel the movie the Kubrick movie It was actually different hotel, but that was inspired by it was inspired Stephen King used to be a professor at a I think it's Colorado State University or Colorado University And he was he was getting a little stressed out feeling a little burned out And they someone a colleague mentioned you go up to the hotel and relax and wind He was up there and apparently the time that he was there was at the end of their season So the building closed and he was caught in a snowstorm up there and the only people that were there were himself a bartender And I think a maid or two and so he was there for a lot longer than he was initially planning because he was snowed in and he had So many paranormal experiences happening with children footsteps running up down the hall noises and explainable things So that was really the inspiration for the book the shining and it should produce some interesting stories for an upcoming podcast Speaking of upcoming podcasts, I was gonna touch on it tonight But I kind of suspected I wouldn't be able to because I thought we had enough material and I was correct So this is gonna be kind of a tease for our next podcast We're gonna talk about fake ghost photos and along with that. I am gonna announce a little contest I'm gonna announce it now to give people time prepare so we don't run out of time between the time when we actually talk about fake photos Open up your Photoshop open up your Photoshop people We're gonna have I'm gonna call it hefa's fake ghost photo contest if you can fool hefa if you can make him believe that it's a real ghost You can't trick me, but go ahead and try So here here's our contest rules.
Okay. We are going to be doing a private investigation And I haven't decided where yet Family tree maybe maybe yeah, I know there's been talk about in theory factory. Yes, there's a lot. We just might go back to cleaves house It's been pretty quite there maybe don't want to rust things Please know please know The tool of hospital that's a free yeah, they're looking out.
I would say some 49, but they're booked out We were actually there just a couple months ago. Really had some good experiences It wasn't scary I didn't know I had a horse in the house. No, that's that's you doing your Anyway, the winner will we will take on private investigation I know we've got one at Union Station coming up. I yeah, I don't know there's gonna be that one or if we will we one way or another You will come on a private investigation with us if you were the one of the contest now to be in the contest You have to send me a fake ghost photo you can send that to Podcast or podcasts either with without Nestle work at Wisps.org Send it your fake ghost photo the one who sends the best fake ghost photo And we'll have a beer judge All pivots on you there.
I keep in mind to me. They're all fake So I don't care if I don't care if they're you know another they're fake or whatever But the one that's the most convincing most realistic. Yep. We'll get to go on an investigation with us now.
There's a couple of rules There's a million and a half iPhone ghost apps out there whatever that other phone is Android Apps out there where you can just stick a ghost in your picture and those are well and good But I to be honest with you those ones are fairly easy to spot. I'm really looking for someone who's creative It's not you who's looking though. It is me. I am the judge will be the filters.
I'm just Judy an executioner We'll filter the entries and then I can definitely see the Judy part Yeah, they're gonna filter them all and just hand me the winner here. What do you think? This is the winner. Well, I mean a lot of the fakes are obvious fakes like you can see the cutout lines guys Let's be honest too much clarity.
Let's be honest. What are you gonna get? Maybe two photos because our our two very loyal listeners will actually send one in one of our listeners probably lazy so we might get one photo And I'll send one to you either way. Send us your fake ghost photos I would prefer that you get creative right break out the photo shot Please, you know, obviously you can use the ghost apps But I would I think you're gonna get more points if you get creative and next podcast We are definitely gonna go in depth on fake ghost photos talk about things that we look for Things that we see not to give everybody heads up But there is a video on our website with an ad me with a fake ghost photo I will be talking about that photo specifically on the next podcast But that may give you some tips and tricks of what not to do Exactly anyway, but we're looking forward to seeing those photos And again, thanks everybody for tuning in we'll be we'll be answering Becky's question next week or next episode Yes, we will we'll be talking about a Colorado trip.
I did leave out her question how hot she said I was Cuz she didn't say that so Becky's really your wife. No No, you don't understand Castle's wife doesn't even think he's hot. Oh You don't have to be hot when you're this amazing. Why amazing you be not And I agree.
All right, so we got plenty material to talk about on the next show then have a good night everybody You're listening to the Wisps was at investigative studies for paranormal science Their grown ass adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other but they all love their moms So that should account for something