The Sodder Children Part 1

Hi, I'm Holly and I'm Haley. Welcome to Mountain Mysteries Tales from Appalachia. Welcome back. Hey everybody.

Did you enjoy our early episode that we gave you? Hope you did. I've gotten a, got myself a little bit more regularly together. She's not going to let you.

I'm still enraged, but I'm, you know, just a constant state of rage. And she can't drink, so it's not like she can go to that. She's like, you know, like giant litter. You're welcome.

You're all a vibrage. All right. Haley, are you ready for this episode? I'm so ready.

You have told me that this is going to be a two part episode because you have like 15 pages worth of research. 19. 19 pages worth of these two episodes. And I'm pumped.

Okay. Let's do it. I am so excited for this episode because it is freaking fascinating. All right.

So today, Haley, we are visiting Fayetteville, West Virginia. West Virginia. Let's do it. It is Christmas Eve, 1945.

Everyone was excited for the holiday and a sense of calm and joy spread throughout Fayetteville. Yeah, there's something magical about, you know, Christmas Eve, you know? The calm would quickly dissipate when at one in the morning, the solder home caught fire inside the home was Mr. George Soder, an Italian immigrant, his wife, Jenny, and nine of their 10 children.

So many children. A lot of children. The children included 23 year old John, 17 year old Marion, 16 year old George Jr, 14 year old Maurice, 12 year old Martha, nine year old Louie, eight year old Jenny, five year old Betty, and two year old Sylvia. Whoo.

Which is kind of funny that other names are pretty normal because usually I feel like in big families, like the first few kids get normal names. And then by the time you reach, like, six or seven, the names start getting wild. Be also Bob. Be also Bob.

Lucifer. Shat rack. Chichichichich. Come over here.

Right. Like they just are like, well, you know, you're not gonna get any attention anyway. I did think about that, you know, like in naming my own son, like, you know, he's, he's, he's my one shot there at the world. But um, if it's, you know, it's very important, like I want to give him a good name that you know strong name strong, but that, you know works and that works in our family and last name and all the things and uh yeah but I think about that like if I got to like kid number 10 I'd probably be like mmm I mean just name it back in clean or whatever like you know maybe I went into labor and I was vacuuming so I named it shark yeah yeah it'd be pretty tough though if I named it Bissell or dirt devil yeah we're dirt devil like Bissell like I said it was not sound horrible it was a place and what is your baby's name is you start to you know fix the birth certificate and you're like this is Bissell and you're like all right actually I feel like that's gonna go on trend Bissell yeah wait for it five years I cannot wait will be on there Bissell but I'm not having 10 kids top baby name Bissell everybody would be like Bissell a Bissell o Bissell b are you here yes yeah okay yeah so they're second oldest son Joe was 21 and he was actually serving in the military as world war one or excuse me World War II was just coming to a close so George and his wife Jenny quickly awoke and were able to escape the fire with four of their children including John Marion George Jr.

and two-year-old Sylvia okay um George Jenny and their four children who escaped had bedrooms all on the main floor of the house okay the other five children shared two rooms upstairs which were separated by gender so boys in one room girls in another when George attempted to go back into the house and rescue his five other children he was met with a raging fire then engulfed the staircase what a terrifying event isn't it and so George ran outside to get his ladder thinking that he could break through an upstairs window but oddly the ladder was missing from where he normally kept it I mean all right yeah see like oh doesn't move the ladder here for shirts and giggles I mean we do have to take my grandmother's ladder on occasion because she decides she's 78 78 she 78 and decides randomly that usually when the wind is blowing really hard in the storms rolling in that oh man you guys should check the gutters what so she climbs on the ladder and is dangling off the roof to try to get the gladiates out of her gutter 78 and I'm like not great so we take her ladder but she just finds it needs a back all right I'm going to give you a little hint granny gutters guards gutters guards yeah or you have lots of people around you that won't break as much if they fall off the roof please don't do that so my brother Travis you're up yep aren't you clumsy I will die better guards I have them they're wonderful are they yes yes eight thousand dollars a better guards on this house I didn't pay for it the previous understood amazing wow yeah well all right so this guy's ladder guy was nowhere to be found so George thought okay well I can't find the ladder maybe I can stand on the bed of my truck and he had these cold trucks these were his work trucks and he thought okay this will give us enough height to be able to reach that maybe that's second floor right he had two trucks neither of them would start but had been working fine the day before well that's odd isn't it yeah all right so gets even more strange oldest daughter Marion who had escaped the fire with her parents ran to the next door neighbors house to call for help oddly the operator never responded so you know back in the day yeah you had to rotary telethorator to operate her connect me to the fire department no one ever answered the switchboard so it's just not going through or was there just nobody there well this could be that it was Christmas Eve and maybe it was one o'clock in the morning I mean it wasn't like they had 911 I mean because no fires ever a conference and see why would you tend to have an emergency or an attack right or any type of burglary exactly and so I mean all I could think I was like maybe the operator was sleeping maybe there's something wrong with the line I don't know so the neighbor tried to call herself but the phone line just continued to ring like nobody would ever pick up so finally the neighbor said I'm just gonna drive to town so the neighbor drove the two and a half miles into town and found the fire chief a man by the name of F.J. Morris okay she alerted them of the fire at the sider home. Oddly the fire department didn't arrive at the sider home until 8 a.m. did they walk it did they decide we're gonna just load up some buckets and walk it there well and then maybe empty buckets that they went to the river and filled up and then I don't know why am I am seven hours that was seven hours did you say maybe it's all right we'll just snap it out and just to be clear the house was two and a half miles from the fire department they had been alerted about it really like immediately you could have seen the fire from that distance probably I could have like you know spit it out or something that yeah I could have stopped or I've enrolled that so before I could have done something.

Holly and Haley could have gotten there and put that fire out before the sider department. We're coming we could have gone back in time right this was you know 1940 but we could have done it we could have had so much time to go back in time put out the fire safe the day and then come back into the present exactly yeah yeah and maybe prevent it you know some other great historical tragedy. Well and I would assume that even in 1945 fire stations ran 24 hours a day like where people skipping work or something. Was there maybe it was like no wait until Christmas morning.

Yeah we probably won't get any calls so it's just just going ahead guys it's okay. Maybe then you have to go and find all the fire people. Yeah so I think that was the thing is like trying to get everybody together like but it takes seven hours. Exactly I don't understand that piece um and there are so many really strange things that are working against this poor family here so the house has been on fire at this point for like seven hours but the time that they finally arrive there's no fire to put out I mean the house is nothing but a smoldering pit of ash.

I'm pissed. Absolutely. The fire truck rolled out and I'm not getting out of here. Yeah I'd be like too little too late.

Leave. Exactly I will sue you. So there was a small area of like basement left but really that was all that was left at the house so Mr. and Mrs.

Sodder told officials that there five other children had been in the home and couldn't get out so when fire officials looked through the remains of the house they found no bodies or pieces of human body. Well that's odd. And there's no rationale for this um so the fire chief told the family that perhaps the heat from the inferno was so hot that it cremated the children's bodies. I don't think house fires get that hot.

Well we'll get there. Okay we'll get there. So just imagine being a family in the situation. Right.

You have tried to do literally everything you can to say your kids and everything is working against you. Right. And then you're told you know I'm so sorry they're gone and your children are just ash basically. There's no bodies.

Exactly. There's nothing to bury. Your kids are just ashes. Um so the fire chief's theory doesn't really make scientific sense.

Well I don't know if it tries to fire chief because we have seven hours we get to the right. Right. What are you talking about? So let's go back uh you know let's do a little science right.

Let's go back to how bodies break down shall we. All right. When a body is burned i.e. put in a crematory you know the flesh is the first thing that removes itself from the bones.

And you know to cremate a body it usually takes between three to four hours at temperatures over two thousand degrees. Right. So at this point bones will break down but they're in pieces and they haven't completely disintegrated. Right.

So bone fragments do remain and the most common ones are the larger ones like the femur ribs and pieces of the skull. Right. So if you're creaming a body like you know you send them to the funeral home you're creaming the body the machine is called a cremeulator. Okay.

So the body once you cremate the body the bones that come out you put them in the cremeulator and these uh actually break down into ash and that's how you get the ashes from the bones. Um it's breaking down all of that fun stuff. This is a machine that grinds them. Yeah.

The cremeulator. Yeah. All right. So that being said a house fire even if it were two thousand plus degrees.

That's not gonna get rid of all those bones. It's not gonna get rid of all those bones and even if like one of them had on jewelry or metal or something like that that wouldn't be gone either because even in fires the metal would still be there. So those bones. Exactly.

So the bones are there. The kids are there. Where they at? So for reference even after the planes hit the twin towers on 9-11 and they collapsed there were still bone fragments found and I mean we're talking intense heat.

Like jet fuel. Jet fuel like 1800 plus degrees like explosions. Um so not finding any trace of these children is just so unlikely. And a house fire.

In a house fire. Yeah. So there was also never a smell of burning flesh that's often associated with you know victims of the fire. All right.

Investigators determined that the cause of the fire was due to faulty wiring in the house. Now this was weird because George had had his wiring checked too much earlier by the power company. And all was well. All was well.

It was in tip-top shape for the winter season. Yeah. So that's weird. Now the five children were declared deceased and they were each issued a certificate by the county coroner's office.

The weeks that followed brought intense pain and grief with the starter family. Obviously George Soder took dirt and filled up the remaining basement in order to know the shrine to his five children. I know. But questions lingered.

Obviously. Where are the kids? So a month after the fire George and Jenny his wife were convinced that their children weren't killed in a fire at all. They believe that all five had been kidnapped.

That's wild. Oh. George and Jenny believe that the children had been kidnapped first and the house was then set on fire to kind of create a diversion. I think if five kids out of the house did nobody know.

Exactly. I don't know. Once we're going to drug them do you you know just take them down on the missing ladder? Oh that's true.

That's a lot of work. Right now. And they were older kids too. Yeah a lot of them are older.

There's like a 14 year old was the oldest. Yeah. So that just seems like. So we're not talking about like little kids that you could just like tuck in your arms and carry them.

Right. And even then there'd be like yelling or screaming or something. I don't know. How you're driving all five at one time.

Exactly. So the question looms. Who would want to kidnap five children from their home and attempt to kill the other occupants? Like did someone have it out for them?

That's weird. Well George was an Italian immigrant as I mentioned and Fayetteville had a small but very vocal Italian community. George was extremely vocal when it came to politics and made it very clear that he hated the Italian dictator at the time Mussolini, Benito Mussolini. So if you know anything about your World War II, Haley, Mussolini was to Italy what Hitler was to Germany.

So he was trying to remove all the Jews from Italy by any means necessary. So George, rightly so, was very open about his disdain from Mussolini which didn't always sit well with other immigrants in the town. And on several occasions George got into some pre-heated arguments with his friends regarding Italian politics and Mussolini. Mussolini had been killed in 1944 and hung upside down on a spike while angry Italian spit on him.

Nonetheless many disagree with George's views. George never revealed why he chose to move to the US but some speculated that he had gotten into some shady things in the old country and he was on the land. But this isn't you know it still doesn't make sense. So in fact you know Soder wasn't his real name.

He had changed his name when he came to Ellis Island from Sardinia in 1908. He was only 13 years old. So previously he had been Georgio Soder. But okay so he's 13 years old.

What kind of shady business could he have been in? Right are you a runner for the mafia which is possible? Maybe. Or did you steal a chocolate bar?

Right. Oh shuck a lot. That's good. Yeah so I do want to mention that the whole name-change thing is probably because of how immigration officials fanetically spelled his name to like Americanized.

Because you know when Native adults came to Ellis Island they did the best they can to pronounce their name for someone and these folks these officials are just writing it how they hear it. So he probably was like oh Georgio Soder you are George Soder. There you go. Probably.

That's like all right cool. Yeah so it's not like he was a shady dude. It was just like he was like here's my name now. I mean no.

So George came to the US with his older brother but his older brother quickly got on a boat back home as George cleared through customs. Okay that is very strange. That was odd. Yeah so I just yeah I don't really understand that.

So George works on the railroad in Pennsylvania when he's young and then he moves to West Virginia where he opens his own trucking business ends up being very successful. He hauls dirt and coal. This is where he meets his wife Jenny a shopkeeper's daughter the two marry in 1922 and he proceeds to have 10 children. What?

That's a lot. So many a lot. George typically did business with other Italian immigrants in the town and according to one report a salesman came to his home one day and threatened him. Why?

Well apparently this is a life insurance salesman and you know I guess George sort of rebuffed him just like no no I don't need your life insurance you can just move on now. Well the salesman said and I quote that George's house would go up and smoke and his children are going to be destroyed. I mean so do we look into the sky? We'll get there.

We'll get there. Say hey I think I know who did it. Yeah yeah yeah. Kind of feels like done.

Like but it feels like a confession. Episode finished. Done. All right thanks guys.

Bye. I'm scared. Oh we feel we're only that simple. I just feel like not that simple.

So not that simple. Right. So the salesman also was pretty ticked because George again was talking negatively about you know Mussolini. So the salesman is a supporting husband.

He is. Yeah so we do not like the salesman. The salesman is up to no. He is clearly but I mean to say things like your house will go up and smoke and your children will be destroyed.

I mean that's pretty pointed. Right. I mean the only people usually nowadays come and knock on my door. They don't usually tell me my house is gonna burst into flames when I say I don't need their religion.

No but they just kind of get back on your bike and go back. They're actually trying like old lady cars. Oh but interesting. I've seen a lot of them on bicycles.

The job. What is this? Yeah. On bicycles?

Yeah. I'm planning a journey. I might have a view and get very far on bicycle. I mean like mine either but you know we have to go through the guard shack.

That's interesting. Yeah on the bicycles. Yeah. It's probably like that.

Bike holes and Randy's probably like all they're so cute. I don't know. I don't know. We'll make sure.

Oh wait. I can't tell them no. Well then that's terrifying. Does it like religious freedom?

Yeah but I mean that could be anybody the converter from the Bible. I brought my tour on my caron. I'm gonna kill you like with the hell. Like no.

That doesn't make sense. No one's ever come to my house with a tour of a caron. I would take those. So I don't have one.

Add it to the collection. Add it to the collection. Religious texts in my home. But I do have an altitude of the holy Bibles.

But the Jehovah's got the Jehovah's got the Jehovah's got the new international version. Jazzy. But yeah so Jehovah's Witnesses are rolling up to my house as of recent. Not life insurance salesman.

But also I don't get threatened by the Jehovah's Witnesses. No but I also think that it would be upper po for a life insurance salesman to pull up to your home with your current illnesses. I mean I think it's gonna be. Yeah I probably need to invest in some.

I think you should. My dad has one on me. That's pretty substantial so that's kind of scary. I don't think my parents have one on me.

They do have my brother. I have my own too. Yeah well. Yeah you guys younger.

But you know Travis is a live wire. You just don't know. So make sure we can get that. All right so there was another instance where a man was seeking work from George and George said sorry.

Sorry sorry. Okay there was another instance where a man who was seeking work from George and George was like no no I don't need any help thanks though. The guy told George that his fuse box could cause a fire someday. Now I don't know if this is just just generally speaking like hey dude you better watch out you know that doesn't look safe or was it one of those things like that's gonna cause a fire.

So did we also talk to this guy. Well get there. I don't get there. I got excited.

Maybe this one might be one we should question as well. Well and to George this may absolutely no sense. So if this guy was just saying this George was like what the heck you know we just put in a new electric stove and I just have a whole place like rewired have the power company come out like everything's good to go. So why does guy would even say that makes no sense.

Well then the house that I've been doing too is very weird wiring so our house is bad wiring. You better get that life insurance. That's all I can say. You got a weird disease now and also let me help discuss some of my fuck you.

I really think that you need to do that for your parents sake. I mean you know they need something for their pain and suffering. Unless you want to make me a bit of fishery I probably also need something for my pain and suffering. Probably I'll make sure I write you in.

Okay great thank you. Alright so several days prior to the fire George's sons actually noticed that a strange car was parked near their house. Got occupants were watching the younger solder children as they returned home from school. Don't like that.

I know that's creepy. I don't watch other people's kids. I don't do that. I don't do that.

That is but this is no not cool. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No.

If you see a child divert your eyes. Not like a phrase or something like that. Don't look at children that are not yours. Exactly.

I won't be looking at mine. Don't look at anything. Just and that's how he likes it. He's an only child and that's how he likes it.

Yes. Okay so so far here's what we have. We have an insurance salesman who threatened to burn the solder home down with the children in it because George made unkind comments about Mussolini. I mean that seems oddly troubling and very similar to what happened.

Yeah. Then we have a strange vehicle lurking around the corner and watching the children come home from school and then of course we have the gentleman who says you got to watch that fuse box. There's gonna be a fire someday. Yeah.

Oh but there's another event. Yes there. There's so much to this story. Right.

So about an hour to a half hour before the fire started the telephone rang at the solder house and you know everybody was asleep. So Mrs. Sutter half asleep got out of bed and head towards the phone and keep in mind you know it wasn't like today where they were sold on right beside us. Like even with their home phones they probably only had two in the whole house when upstairs went downstairs.

So she goes to answer the phone but notices like oddly that all the lights are on upstairs where the five children are sleeping. So this was kind of weird and her husband was asleep and for all she knew like you know her children were asleep so she found this strange. According to Mrs. Sutter the person on the other line was a female but she did not recognize her voice.

The person asked if you know someone was there which was a name that was unfamiliar to Mrs. Sutter. So she actually heard other people in the background talking and it sounded like glasses were clinking like as if it was like a party or a club or something. Okay.

So strange. Mrs. Sutter told the woman excuse me woman that she had the wrong number to which the woman gave a weird laugh because it's kind of off-putting. Mrs.

Sutter assumed that maybe this person was a me-breathing and dialed the wrong number so she hung up the phone and just about back in the bed. Moments later after she was in bed Mrs. Sutter heard a noise that sounded like it was coming from the roof. She described it as a loud boom and then a rolling noise.

It started with her at first but she thought maybe it was just the wind or the trees and she didn't hear it again so she just went to sleep. Half an hour later Mrs. Sutter woke up to the smell of smoke. She got out of bed and found her husband's downstairs office on fire.

The fire appeared to be near the wiring for Mr. Sutter's telephone. Mrs. Sutter also observed that the Christmas lights in the house were on amidst the fire and she could see the shades of red and green through the smoke.

Okay. She ran back into the bedroom. She wakes up her husband alarmed of course. He runs to his older son's rooms, wakes them up and then his wife gets their daughters and they attempt to get their other five children.

They're like screaming and yelling but they could not get up the stairs but their flames were just too high. So oddly their phone wasn't working and of course this was only 30 minutes after Mrs. Sutter had just used the phone. Okay.

Yeah. And another thing that you would think about is okay so if something was wrong with it wiring and stuff this would probably affect power so why were the Christmas lights working? Why was there so power on the house? George was barefoot and he climbed up the side of the house and broke an attic window which caused him to cut his arm on the broken charts of glass and as you're caught from the beginning of the story the ladder was not in such a place and couldn't be found.

The family was looking around, couldn't hide it anywhere and they ended up thinking well we've got that barrel of water and what we could do with it we could try to extinguish the fire with that. But unfortunately the cold weather had frozen the water. Of course it did. The family tries desperately to save the five children but had to end up standing by and watching their house burn to the ground and it did so in 45 minutes.

I guess it's seven hours is a little seven hours it's a little late to join the party. Little late. Little late. And remember how I mentioned that the fire chief declared that the children were dead and their bodies were used to ash?

Well another claim made later on was that bone fragments and human tissue was actually found at the scene. But officers didn't want to tell the family as it might be too painful for them. So it's better to think that you know your kids are ashes than like we have something to bury or to think that they were kidnapped. Exactly.

Then to be like now actually we've defined remains. That would be helpful. This is the closure that you need. So fire officials who reviewed the case in more recent years state that the fire department did a cursory job at this.

Clearly. No kidding. And it wasn't a thorough investigation. There had been an inquest apparently a day after and it was said oh yes you know it was faulty wiring.

But guess who was on the jury panel for the inquest? Those life insurance salesmen. Yeah for real. Yes.

Are you kidding us? Yes. The man with the right words the insurance salesman with fire and killing the kids was on the jury panel the inquest who said oh yes it must have been faulty. Is that not a when you do jury selection and all that out?

Well and we're talking like the day after so I don't even know how quickly like you're just like hey guys in the town come here. Like how does that work? I mean we're all just eating breakfast together with a local like diner or whatever and they were like hey guys. Did you say the eyes of the pub?

Oh oh pub. You can maybe they just gather them all together and listen. Let your eyes out. This is what happened and what do you think and they're like faulty wiring.

Cool. I think that's close. Exactly. Well especially if someone was responsible for that.

Number one you didn't buy my life insurance. Right. I see the life insurance doesn't mean like listen guys. I really think this is probably what it was.

And they're all like I mean this guy seems to know what he's talking about. So insurance salesman you know a lot about wiring in a house. I think you're in fire. You must be right.

Listen anytime you see anyone connected with insurance you just need to like walk away. Just leave with a crime like that or like an ambulance chaser or something. Like a weird robot. Sounds kind of shady.

So yeah he was definitely on board with this. Oh yeah. That does not work. No don't like that.

So fire chief Morris did tell George not to tamper with the scene because they wanted to do a more thorough investigation. But this was when George kind of bulldozed over the rubble and attempted to fill up a dirt to the shrine to the kids. Oh fuck you. Yeah.

Don't touch the scene. Bulldoze. I have a deep crime scene. Where is bulldozer?

Bulldoze it over. I think for him it's like forget you man. Like this is my property. Right.

And also the barn bird took seven hours. Anyway you feel and you told me this morning at your inquest that it was faulty wiring and you know like there's not more to it. So I trust any of you. Yeah why would I trust you?

I'm going to do whatever the heck I want. So I'm going to bulldoze this mother and I'm going to fill up a dirt and do a shrine to my kids. This was four days after the fire. So he was like yep nope.

I'm out of here. I appreciate that. And I think that he was dealing with a lot of pain and grief. There's a lot of emotions.

A lot. And so much confusion. And you know even though they had done everything humanly possible they could do to save those children's lives. Right.

You still have to think they're probably feeling inside like I didn't do enough. Yeah. You know so Gild has to come to that too. Even though they did everything they could.

So the children's funeral was held Sam's bodies on January 2nd 1942 and Jordan his wife Jenny were so devastated that they could not attend the funeral. Wow. But there are other surviving children did attend the funeral. Okay.

Yeah so we're kind of in this place now where we got a lot of stuff going on. Right. So we have possibilities. We've got the genius who knows so much about oh that may catch on fire someday.

Yeah we got that guy. We got the insurance sales guy who you know said your house will go up and smoke and your children will be destroyed and suddenly ends up on the jury panel for the inquest saying things like yeah I think it was a faulty circuit. That sounds good. And now the starters are thinking more and more.

Oh my gosh. What if our children did not die in the fire? What if they were kidnapped? This is going to be the end Haley of part one of the Saudder Children and when we pick up next time on part two we're going to discuss theories things found at the burn site a heart okay and sightings of the children.

All right I'm still stuck on heart. Oh we can't wait until next time and I'm excited to hear you guys's theories because this story is fascinating. So the wild it is so wild and and almost you think about like all of this because a guy didn't agree with Mussolini like I mean that'd be like which again we're kind of in crazy time right now politically but be like I say I don't like I certain politicians and someone comes and burns my house down. Which I mean those Jehovah's Witnesses are down to the masses.

I refuse to act in your Pontiac one too many times and they said fire to your house. All right. No that's terrible you need a place to live so you can convalesce. True.

Yeah maybe don't burn my house down. I don't think you should. No. And then the faulty wire.

I didn't hear that. Exactly. Your older home will take care of that. Yeah we don't need any help for that.

No one's got an electrician about recently. Everything was okay though? Well we lost lights in half of the house for a few weeks. A few weeks.

Yeah we didn't have lights in like three or four of the rooms. I think that house is haunted. I don't know. I haven't got I kind of wanted it to be but I haven't got my haunted vibe yet.

Oh I wait till we record there. Maybe we will. Yeah but I also haven't like fully moved in. So it's kind of taking things slowly because I you know tried to dive a few weeks ago.

Tick tried to murder me. So it's taking us a beat but I haven't felt anything ghosties yet. Not yet. But however I did come home to my other apartment and then I'm moving out of and I have like lights around the top of my living room but like LED lights or whatever that change colors.

They were on and my the doors in my storage like room was wide open. And it's not usually no. And the remote for those lights is somewhere where like one of the animals couldn't have hit it. So I don't really know how that occurred.

Well we've always said it's haunted. Yeah that apartment is definitely haunted but I haven't had anything weird until just recently. So it goes from this back in the apartment. Maybe it's kind of bitter that you're leaving.

It might be mad. But I think that ghost came with me from work when I was working in hospice. I think that ghost came with me. So he can come with me to the new house.

That's really sweet. Like I've already talked about it. I told him he's welcome. So maybe that was just his response of saying like I'll be there.

It could be like so. I just wanted to let you know. Like he didn't freak me out or anything. I'm taking you up on your office.

I did check the house for murder or so. That's not a bad idea. I did just double check a couple closets to make sure there was nobody working. Today you actually came into my house before I was here.

I did. So you got the job of making sure it was good. I did not go full sweep. No you didn't because when I asked did you see that new blanket on my son's bed you went not.

I can't help it. I can't straight in. I used your bathroom and I sat in the chair and you look at her room. Well we know the facilities work.

That's good. That's great. That's great. I tried to make it.

Your son smells really lovely. Mrs. Myers. Thank you.

It's really nice. Yeah. It's expensive now. Like five dollars per soap.

So I may have to like go with you know what I have. Well no there's like soft soap or something. Yeah. I have to go cheaper.

Yeah. I have to go cheaper stuff. Yeah. Now I'm going to Mrs.

Myers. I love you but we can't do it anymore. Especially because my child will sit there and put tons of soap on his hand. He's trying to do proper hand washing.

He is. He is. He is. Okay.

Because it's water and things. Anyway. Well listen. Come back for part two next week and give me all your theories.

Yeah. Let me know what you're thinking. Haley do want me to give them our contact or do you want to do it this time? Oh yeah.

I'll take it for a world. All right. Go for it. I'm going to get in contact with us.

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All right. Well thank you for listening to this episode. Don't forget part two next week and we'll see you then. Bye.

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