The strategy behind Trump's foreign policy chaos - and where it leaves Australia

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While Donald Trump’s presidency might seem chaotic from the outside as the US appears to be retreating from its former role as a global superpower, intelligence analyst Clinton Fernandes says that behind the scenes a shrewd geo-political strategy is being rolled out. And it’s one that could see Australia dragged into a war with China.Guest: Clinton Fernandes, Professor of International and Political Studies at the University of New South Wales, and author of ‘Turbulence: Australian Foreign Policy in the Trump Era’Producer: Catherine Zengerer

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While Donald Trump’s presidency might seem chaotic from the outside as the US appears to be retreating from its former role as a global superpower, intelligence analyst Clinton Fernandes says that behind the scenes a shrewd geo-political strategy is being rolled out. And it’s one that could see Australia dragged into a war with China. Guest: Clinton Fernandes, Professor of International and Political Studies at the University of New South Wales, and author of ‘Turbulence: Australian Foreign Policy in the Trump Era’ Producer: Catherine Zengerer

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