The Subtle Craft of Tone and Texture in Political Thrillers with Jenny Gering - The Diplomat

Power isn't shouted in this world—it's tailored. Discover how suits, fabric, and subtle choices quietly drive tension in a political thriller. In this thoughtful and inspiring conversation, host Catherine Baumgardner sits down with acclaimed costume designer Jenny Gering, whose work spans The Americans and season three of The Diplomat. Gering reflects on her childhood split between tomboy freedom and classic Hollywood obsession, crediting old movies, vintage fashion, and storytelling as the roots of her creative instincts. The discussion traces her unconventional path into costume design—one built on curiosity, saying yes, and discovering that seemingly unrelated skills can suddenly click into purpose. Gering offers a candid look at the demands of episodic television, describing The Americans as a trial-by-fire education in speed, research, and stamina, while emphasizing the importance of mentorship, collaboration, and problem-solving under pressure. As the conversation shifts to The Diplomat, Gering unpacks the subtle art of designing for political thrillers: restrained palettes, repeated garments, and the careful use of tone and texture to differentiate characters without breaking realism. She explains how costumes must ground the audience in reality, making tension feel immediate and believable. Throughout, themes of humility, adaptability, ego-free collaboration, and lifelong curiosity emerge—offering invaluable insight for creatives navigating high-pressure storytelling environments. The "Voice of Costume" is the first podcast created between working costume designers sharing stories, inspiration, struggles, and insights into the creative career of costume design. A behind-the-scenes podcast to showcase the voices of Costume Designers around the world. Listen in on this inspirational, one-on-one conversation with Catherine Baumgardner. Audio available wherever you get podcasts. https://voiceofcostume.com/