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EPISODE · Jul 26, 2026 · 47 MIN

The Sunday Interview: Martin Luther King Jr. Wasn’t Born a Hero

from Straight White American Jesus · host Bradley Onishi + Daniel Miller

In this Sunday interview, Leah Payne speaks with Dr. Lerone Martin, author of Young King: The Making of Martin Luther King Jr., about the life of Martin Luther King Jr. before he became the civil rights icon we know today. They explore King's teenage years as an agnostic, his struggles with racism and academic challenges, his love of basketball, and the parents, teachers, mentors, and communities that helped shape his faith, intellect, courage, and commitment to justice. Dr. Martin reveals the young person behind the legend—and explains why understanding King's doubts, flaws, failures, and development makes his story even more powerful. The conversation also examines King's early experiences with segregation and freedom, his evolving understanding of leadership and nonviolence, his use of media, and the lessons his life offers movements for social change today. Dr. Martin explains why King would likely warn us not to be surprised by political backlash—and why lasting change requires disciplined organizing, sustained campaigns, economic action, and strong local communities. Subscribe to the Axis Mundi Network on Substack:⁠⁠https://axismundinetwork.substack.com⁠⁠ Become a paid subscriber:⁠⁠https://axismundinetwork.substack.com⁠⁠... Support our work with a tax-deductible donation:⁠⁠https://www.irmce.org/donate⁠⁠ Visit the Institute for Religion, Media, and Civic Engagement (IRMCE):⁠⁠https://www.irmce.org⁠⁠ www.groundnews.com/swaj⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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