The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Product Friday

from Product Fridays · host Andrew Phelps and Andrew McGill

Phelps has been building something for the past month. It’s inspired him — maybe more than any side project in recent memory. And it just suffered a setback that has him wondering if he should keep going on at all.McGill has been building something for the past year. It started out promising. Then it got hard. Somewhere along the way, he set it down. Now he’s looking for the inspiration to see it through.Sometimes you just gotta wear all black and turn all the lights off and record your podcast in the dark. Because as much as we’d like everything to follow the Golden Roadmap™️, building products isn’t linear. Today, the Andrews break down what to do when things feel stuck – or just suck. And spoiler alert: BOTH of those projects are getting built, folks.Mentioned in this episode:* Bandwagon. Group chats with AI. Sign up for the private beta!* Sous Chef. Win Thanksgiving this year.And the too-expensive-to-actually-buy items topping The Andrews’ holiday wishlist this year:* reMarkable Paper Pro * Sony ZV-E10 II camera* Switch 2 (actually this feels attainable)* And will this be the year McGill buys one of the Meta VR headsets?Today’s limerick recipient: Nonita Juanita. Thanks NJ! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit productfridays.substack.com

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