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EPISODE · May 24, 2025 · 1H 6M

The Torah Didn't Always Feel Like Mine | Lauren Nagel, Devora Pinson & Chana Arnold

from Human & Holy · host Tonia Chazanow

In honor of Shavuos, three women — Lauren Nagel, Devora Pinson, and Chana Arnold — sit down for a raw and honest conversation about receiving the Torah anew in our adult lives. What are some of the things that have disconnected us from the Torah over the years? What are some of the things that have softened those blockages? And in what ways has the Torah become the greatest gift of our lives?If you connected to something that was shared in this episode, let our generous guests know:Devora Pinson: [email protected] Nagel: [email protected] Arnold: [email protected] SPONSORS:This episode is sponsored by Finds By Rivka. Think of Rivka’s finds as a personal shopper who sifts through the sale pages to find the best Tznius clothing deals! Join 3,000+ other women who are loving the group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LBOxmcsZin66u7brbOvx4l* * * * * * *Babyccino is a Mommy & Me class curriculum designed to facilitate meaningful, Jewish experiences for mothers and babies. We can only receive the Torah that is given to us, and the Torah is given to children, first, by their mothers. Find out more here: www.babyccinoclass.com* * * * * * *This episode is co-sponsored and dedicated with love by Riki to a special "Human & Holy" person, mother and friend, Miriam Frimet Bas Tzivia, upon her birthday. May it be a Zchus. * * * * * * *To inquire about sponsorship & advertising opportunities, please email us at [email protected] support our work, visit humanandholy.com/sponsor.Find us on Instagram @humanandholy & subscribe to our channel to stay up to date on all our upcoming conversations ✨Human & Holy podcast is available on all podcast streaming platforms. New episodes every Sunday & Wednesday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Google Podcasts.* * * * * * *TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Sneak Peek00:17 - Host's Intro01:45 - Sponsorship Message: Finds by Rivka03:03 - Meet the Guests: Devora, Chana, Lauren05:18 - Spiritual Backgrounds08:52 - I Needed More 12:10 - The Torah Feeds My Soul16:34 - Choosing the Torah Again17:50 - The Torah as a Tree of Life 19:58 - I Was Just Repeating What I Learned 22:55 - Real Learning Creates Space for Real Struggles24:21 - Letting Go of Perfectionism 30:06 - I Lost Everything 32:28 - When I Began to Access Hashem33:27 - Holding Pain & Faith Simultaneously35:33 - I Am Not Alone 37:37 - A Real Relationship Welcomes Your Full Self 40:54 - What Do We Do With Our Freedom?42:05 - The Torah Can't Be Done in Isolation44:30 - I Skip to My Torah Classes46:05 - From "I Have to" to "I Get To"49:51 - Torah is an Overflowing Ocean51:08 - Raising Kids with G-d Consciousness54:01 - When You See the Light Shining in Other Women 54:37 - The Torah Shifted Me 56:22 - Investing in Our Relationship with G-d58:24 - Shavuos as a Relationship Renewal01:01:07 - Sharing Torah at the Table01:01:44 - Beautifying Our Experience of the Torah 01:04:38 - Host's Outro

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