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EPISODE · Feb 17, 2026 · 19 MIN

The Travel Nobody Talks About: Finding Hope in Tragic Places | Ep 100

from Gurus & Game Changers: Real Solutions for Life's Biggest Challenges · host Stacey Grant & Mark Lubragge

Send us Fan MailDr. Chad Scott is a psychologist, author of "Beyond the Darkness," and expert in dark tourism - the practice of visiting places of death, disaster, tragedy, and suffering. From concentration camps to plantation slavery museums, he's traveled to some of humanity's darkest places and found unexpected hope and life lessons.In this reflective dark tourism conversation, Stacey and Mark talk with Dr. Chad about what dark tourism really is (83% of Americans have visited a dark tourism site), how walking alone through the Auschwitz gas chamber changed his life forever, and why memories of D-Day helped him survive his liver transplant delay. He explains the difference between dark tourism and voyeurism, and how visiting sites of human suffering makes you love life more, not less.Dr. Chad recommends two lesser-known dark tourism destinations: Whitney Plantation near New Orleans (which tells the slavery story from the enslaved perspective, focusing on children and women) and Glore Psychiatric Museum in Missouri (showing the evolution from barbaric "lunatic asylum" treatments to modern mental health care). He shares how these places become etched in your heart, not just your memory, and come back to speak to you when you need them most.This conversation explores finding meaning in suffering, the psychology of resilience, why "comfort zones are for couch potatoes," and how stepping into humanity's darkest places teaches you what truly matters in life. Dr. Chad's message: Your darkness can become your greatest strength if you step outside your comfort zone and let these places teach you. Walking through darkness is the quickest way to see the brightness in life.CHAPTERS: 0:00 - What Is Dark Tourism? 2:03 - How Dr. Chad Got Into Dark Tourism 5:00 - The Liver Transplant That Changed Everything 6:11 - Finding Perspective in Places of Suffering 8:04 - Do You Feel Presence at Dark Tourism Sites? 9:28 - Alone in the Auschwitz Gas Chamber 10:55 - Two Obscure Dark Tourism Sites Everyone Should Visit 11:26 - Whitney Plantation: Slavery From the Enslaved Perspective 12:33 - Does Dark Tourism Change Your View of Humanity? 13:32 - Glore Psychiatric Museum: The Evolution of Mental Health Treatment 15:15 - Why He Wrote "Beyond the Darkness" 16:23 - Resilience: Your Darkness Becomes Your Greatest Strength 17:48 - The Message: Comfort Zones Are for Couch PotatoesConnect with Dr. Chad Scott: Book: "Beyond the Darkness" (Amazon, Barnes & Noble, local bookstores) Website: https://DrChadScott.com Facebook: Chad Scott Author📱 FOLLOW US 📲 Connect with Our Hosts: Stacey: https://www.instagram.com/staceymgrant/ Mark: https://www.instagram.com/mark_lubragge_onair/⭐️ Watch/Subscribe to Gurus and Game Changers on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GurusAndGameChangers⭐️ Listen on any podcast audio platform✨ Subscribe for more game-changing conversations about transformation and resilience ✨ Share with someone who needs perspective on their strugglesKeywords: dark tourism, reflective travel, Dr. Chad Scott, Beyond the Darkness, visiting Auschwitz, places of tragedy, finding meaning in suffering, resilience, liver transplant story, Whitney Plantation, Glore Psychiatric Museum, transformative travel, Holocaust memorials, slavery museums, mental health history, personal transformation

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Send us Fan Mail Dr. Chad Scott is a psychologist, author of "Beyond the Darkness," and expert in dark tourism - the practice of visiting places of death, disaster, tragedy, and suffering. From concentration camps to plantation slavery museums, he's traveled to some of humanity's darkest places and found unexpected hope and life lessons. In this reflective dark tourism conversation, Stacey and Mark talk with Dr. Chad about what dark tourism really is (83% of Americans have visited a dark tour...

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