EPISODE · Sep 8, 2025 · 41 MIN
The trouble with 'carbon neutral' — and what comes next
from Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality · host Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend
Solitaire Townsend and Joel Makower dive deep into the messy, confusing and often misleading world of corporate carbon claims. “Carbon neutral” once carried a certain promise. When Interface, the carpet company, popularized the phrase two decades ago, it felt like a step forward — an early signal that business could take responsibility for its role in the climate crisis. But as Soli and I explore, the term has since morphed into a hall pass for greenwash, a way for some companies to buy absolution without changing much.
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