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EPISODE · May 21, 2025 · 27 MIN

The Truth About Leadership Pain | Ep 21

from The Matt Ware Show

How much pain can you take? In this episode of The Shift Podcast, Matt and Evan unpack the brutal truth behind personal and professional growth: it always comes with pain. You’ll learn why leadership pain is unavoidable, how avoidance becomes your cap, and why disruption and discomfort are actually the fuel for your next level. From skydiving and 75 Hard to Maxwell, Goggins, and Hormozi—this episode is loaded with real-world wisdom. If you're trying to grow your business, your leadership, or yourself… this conversation will stretch you. Contact: theshiftpodcast.co Matt Ware: https://themattware.com Evan Weiland: https://evanweiland.com Recommended Books: Leadership Pain by Dr. Sam Chand The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek

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