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EPISODE · Nov 28, 2025 · 1H 54M

The Truth About Our AI Future w/ Ben Goertzel

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Ben Goertzel joins the show to explore humanity’s future in a world shaped by AGI — from the evolution of intelligence to the emergence of machine consciousness. They discuss the transition from narrow AI to general intelligence, the possibility of AGI becoming humanity’s “next species,” the ethics of decentralized superintelligence, and how open-source AI might be the key to avoiding catastrophic centralization. Ben explains why AGI may reshape economics, governance, and biology, why consciousness is not limited to humans or biology, and how AI networks may begin cooperating, competing, and evolving in ways we cannot predict. They explore the future of personhood, identity, and whether humans will merge with AGI — or be surpassed by it. Ben Goertzel is the CEO of SingularityNET and one of the world’s leading AGI researchers.

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