EPISODE · Jun 19, 2025 · 38 MIN
The TRUTH About Why Managers Burn Out And How To Fix It
from The Plumm Pod · host Plumm
They’re the most powerful people in your company… and the most overlooked. In this episode, we sit down with Chelsea, Head of People at Tomorrow, whose approach to middle management has transformed team performance and culture. From scaling challenges to personal breakthroughs, Chelsea reveals what most leaders get wrong about middle managers and what to do about it. Here’s what you’ll learn Why middle managers shape your company culture more than your CEO The real reason managers burn out (and how to stop it) How Tomorrow built one of the UK’s top workplaces by focusing on its “squeezed middle” The three powerful qualities Chelsea looks for when identifying future leaders This isn’t theory. It’s a masterclass in the people strategy most companies ignore, until it’s too late. 👉 Subscribe for more honest, unfiltered conversations with the people rewriting the rules of work. Chapters 00:00:00 – From Retail Floors to Head of People00:03:16 – Learning Business From the Inside Out00:05:13 – Why Middle Managers Hold the Power00:07:10 – The Hidden Cost of Neglecting Managers00:09:01 – Embedding Culture Through the Squeezed Middle00:10:32 – From High Turnover to Top 10 Workplace00:12:18 – The Mistakes We Made Scaling00:13:51 – The Power of Monthly Reflection00:15:36 – Fixing Feedback and Growth Conversations00:16:55 – Why Radical HR Experiments Sometimes Fail00:18:53 – Becoming a Manager is a Career Change00:20:41 – No Training for Micro-Moments00:22:33 – Avoiding Burnout Through Small Wins00:24:25 – Building Great Leaders from Within00:26:09 – The Three C’s of Great Management00:27:44 – Creating Paths Beyond Management00:29:35 – Essential Skills, Not Soft Skills00:31:00 – Growth Plans That Actually Grow People00:33:03 – Making Purpose Tangible00:34:43 – The Manager’s Impact on Retention00:36:33 – Advice to Her Younger Self
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They’re the most powerful people in your company… and the most overlooked. In this episode, we sit down with Chelsea, Head of People at Tomorrow, whose approach to middle management has transformed team performance and culture. From scaling challenges to personal breakthroughs, Chelsea reveals what most leaders get wrong about middle managers and what to do about it. Here’s what you’ll learn Why middle managers shape your company culture more than your CEO The real reason managers burn out (and how to stop it) How Tomorrow built one of the UK’s top workplaces by focusing on its “squeezed middle” The three powerful qualities Chelsea looks for when identifying future leaders This isn’t theory. It’s a masterclass in the people strategy most companies ignore, until it’s too late. 👉 Subscribe for more honest, unfiltered conversations with the people rewriting the rules of work. Chapters 00:00:00 – From Retail Floors to Head of People00:03:16 – Learning Business From the Inside Out00:05:13 – Why Middle Managers Hold the Power00:07:10 – The Hidden Cost of Neglecting Managers00:09:01 – Embedding Culture Through the Squeezed Middle00:10:32 – From High Turnover to Top 10 Workplace00:12:18 – The Mistakes We Made Scaling00:13:51 – The Power of Monthly Reflection00:15:36 – Fixing Feedback and Growth Conversations00:16:55 – Why Radical HR Experiments Sometimes Fail00:18:53 – Becoming a Manager is a Career Change00:20:41 – No Training for Micro-Moments00:22:33 – Avoiding Burnout Through Small Wins00:24:25 – Building Great Leaders from Within00:26:09 – The Three C’s of Great Management00:27:44 – Creating Paths Beyond Management00:29:35 – Essential Skills, Not Soft Skills00:31:00 – Growth Plans That Actually Grow People00:33:03 – Making Purpose Tangible00:34:43 – The Manager’s Impact on Retention00:36:33 – Advice to Her Younger Self
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