The Union of Psychology and Spirituality

In this reflective episode, Sister Liz welcomes back Father Patrick McDevitt, C.M., now President and CEO of St. Luke Institute. Drawing from his decades as a Vincentian priest and counseling psychologist, Father Pat explores how healing, faith, and human wholeness are intertwined. Together, they unpack why true growth requires letting go of the fight, embracing pain as a teacher, and recognizing that God is already present in every moment of our lives. With stories of grace, vulnerability, and encounter, this episode invites listeners to see life not as a problem to be solved, but a mystery to be lived.