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EPISODE · Jan 30, 2026 · 55 MIN

The United States Today and the Lessons of Nazi Germany

from The World According to Jen & Carolyn · host Jennifer Patricia and Carolyn Jay

Send us Fan MailThe United States in 2026 is not Nazi Germany…yet. But history doesn’t only warn us through identical repetition. It warns us through patterns—through early signals, institutional stress, and social dynamics that recur under different conditions. In this episode, Jen & Carolyn ask a difficult but important question: What happens when we compare the United States today—not to Nazi Germany at its endpoint—but to Germany in the years before it became Nazi Germany? Because the tragedy of the Weimar Republic was not that Germans woke up one morning and chose dictatorship. It was that many believed “this can’t happen here.”Alexander, J. C. (2004). Toward a theory of cultural trauma. In J. C. Alexander, R. Eyerman, B. Giesen, N. J. Smelser, & P. Sztompka (Eds.), Cultural trauma and collective identity (pp. 1-30). University of California Press.DiAngelo, R. (2011). White fragility. International Journal of Critical Pedagogy, 3(3), 54-70.DiAngelo, R. (2018). White fragility: Why it's so hard for white people to talk about racism. Beacon Press.Freud, S. (1920). Beyond the pleasure principle. (J. Strachey, Trans.). W. W. Norton & Company.Hübl, T., & Avritt, J. J. (2020). Healing collective trauma: A process for integrating our intergenerational and cultural wounds. Sounds True.Isobel, S., Goodyear, M., Furness, T., & Foster, K. (2019). Preventing intergenerational trauma transmission: A critical interpretive synthesis. Journal of Clinical Nursing, 28(7-8), 1100-1113.Kestenberg, J. (1982). A metapsychological assessment based on an analysis of a survivor's child. In M. S. Bergman & M. E. Jucovy (Eds.), Generations of the Holocaust (pp. 137-158). Basic Books.Knight, Z. G. (2017). "If I leave home, who will take care of mum?" Intergenerational transmission of parental trauma through projective identification. The Scandinavian Psychoanalytic Review, 40(2), 119-128. https://doi.org/10.1080/01062301.2017.1403496Krieger, H. (1938). Das Rassenrecht in den Vereinigten Staaten [Race law in the United States]. Junker und Dünnhaupt Verlag.Levy, M. S. (2000). A conceptualization of the repetition compulsion. Psychiatry, 63(1), 45-53.Porges, S. W. (1995). Orienting in a defensive world: Mammalian modifications of our evolutionary heritage: A polyvagal theory. Psychophysiology, 32(4), 301-318. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1469-8986.1995.tb01213.xPorges, S. W. (2001). The polyvagal theory: Phylogenetic substrates of a social nervous system. International Journal of Psychophysiology, 42(2), 123-146. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0167-8760(01)00162-3Porges, S. W. (2021). Polyvagal theory: A science of safety. Frontiers in Integrative Neuroscience. https://doi.org/10.3389/fnint.2022.871227Porges, S. W. (2022). Polyvagal Theory: A Science of Safety. Frontiers in Integrative Neuroscience, 16, 871227. https://doi.org/10.3389/fnint.2022.871227Racial Integrity Act of 1924, Virginia Code § 20-54 et seq. (1924).Sangalang, C. C., & Vang, C. (2016). Intergenerational trauma in refugee families: A systematic review. Journal of Immigrant and Minority Health, 19(3), 745-754.United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. (2023). The Nuremberg Race Laws. Holocaust Encyclopedia. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/e

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