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EPISODE · Jul 14, 2025 · 49 MIN

The Universe Keeps Testing Us: Dating Disasters and Dessert Therapy

from we are NOT the SAME · host Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph

Send us Fan MailDessert has never tasted so sweet as when you're finally free from competition prep restrictions. In this celebratory episode, Heather and Lacey indulge in a variety of treats while catching up on life, love, and the pursuit of the perfect lemon cake bite.Fresh off her successful bodybuilding competition, Heather savors her first real meal in months – a teriyaki burger from Hop Jacks (which Lacey stubbornly refuses to call by its new name, "Hops and Drops"). The duo shares laughs over restaurant servers who still remember them from their weekly happy hour sessions years ago.Between bites of lemon layer cake, strawberry cheesecake, and vanilla pudding cake, they dive into stories about dating disappointments. Lacey coins the term "oppositional defiant disorder with the universe" to describe their shared tendency to ignore obvious red flags in relationships. The mysterious "motorcycle" who has ghosted Lacey three times but keeps reappearing becomes a metaphor for the lessons we refuse to learn.The conversation weaves through Heather's competition feedback (coming in "slightly leaner" next time), injury-prone pasts (featuring Lacey’s five ankle sprains in six months), and mutual confusion over internet trends like ASMR and mukbang videos. Through it all, the underlying theme remains their enduring friendship – from sharing matching dresses in their "size zero days" to supporting each other through life's challenges.As they plan for upcoming concerts and Heather's next competition in Florida, it's clear that these moments of connection over dessert represent something much sweeter than cake – the freedom to enjoy life's pleasures and the comfort of a friendship that has weathered years of change.Take a moment to enjoy something sweet today, and remember that sometimes the best therapy comes with frosting. Subscribe for more conversations that feel like catching up with your best friends! -Support the show

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Send us Fan Mail Dessert has never tasted so sweet as when you're finally free from competition prep restrictions. In this celebratory episode, Heather and Lacey indulge in a variety of treats while catching up on life, love, and the pursuit of the perfect lemon cake bite. Fresh off her successful bodybuilding competition, Heather savors her first real meal in months – a teriyaki burger from Hop Jacks (which Lacey stubbornly refuses to call by its new name, "Hops and Drops"). The duo shares...

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