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Today we're here to talk about something serious. You know, we're talking about David Doberk a lot. Well, you guys missed the memo. We've been talking about David Doberk a lot.
And they responded actually. Specifically, one of the vlog squad members, Scotty Sire, which with peace and love, I don't know anything about him, but it sounds like the name of a poodle. Scotty Sire. Scotty.
Okay. Scotty Sire. You know, Shirett's name was the written Scotty. Yeah.
Right. When we picked him up, his name was Scotty. I'm like, he ain't no Scotty. Yeah.
Scotty. But yeah. You were my. Yeah.
So Scotty, I guess, and Scotty incidentally is like, what's it what? Scotty doesn't know. Is that a song or something? Yeah.
Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan. Thank you for that input. Well, he does it know actually because he made this video, which in my opinion, like I was like, okay, either they're not going to respond or he's just going to apologize to Seth, you know, which is the mature good thing to do, make his statement being like, you know what, I was wrong.
We used to do a lot of stuff back in the day that wasn't okay. And now I've grown up. I'm sure. Well, actually, they put out a video basically attacking and threatening Seth.
Now, this is Scotty who's like the most, I guess, from what I understand, because I'm not super familiar with the vlog squad dynamic, but everybody seems to like this guy, Scotty, and he has a really good reputation among them. And so it seems to me that David used this guy for and his good reputation to put out this video to try to get the best response. And the reason I say that is because Scotty includes in his video, a clip of David, David sent him a clip of text messages of him with Seth and David is narrating it. So clearly, you know, David knows Scotty's making this video and is supplementing him with information.
So this isn't just Scotty's opinion. This is definitely David's opinion as well, which to me speaks volumes because this was like the worst possible response because it's like classic victim shaming, victim blaming, victim dismissing. And now Seth is actually getting just a ton more shit and hate. And you know, I messaged Seth to say, hey, do you want to come in today to talk about it?
And at first he was like, yeah, I'll come in. And then, you know, after a few hours, he said, actually, you know what, I don't want to go and talk about this like on the record anymore. It's getting like, and I'm assuming just because it's just getting too crazy for him, especially because there was insinuations in the video that David could be seeking illegal, right? Yeah, against me and right.
I still. Yeah, I mean, the thought doesn't frighten me at all, but it would to Seth. I mean, it still scares me. It's not anyone.
Oh, I mean, for a lawsuit. It's not something anyone wants to go through. It doesn't matter. Like, you know, it's just such a ugly process, expensive, disgusting.
Well, I've already been through one defamation lawsuit. So trust me, I mean, I've already defeated one defamation lawsuit over a year, you ain't even winning any. I'm not as scared as I used to because we know so much more. But even defending yourself legally is super awful.
So even if Seth like hypothetically has like an ironclad case, it's still life ruining to get sued. Yeah, it's awful. Yeah. So they scared him.
And they and what they're doing is scaring other people. You know, I talk to other people who have crazy things to say, but they're scared to come forward and and stuff like this obviously discourages that further. That is exactly why I always laugh when people try to say like about certain victims when it's like one person against a famous person. They always say, Oh, he's just cloud chasing.
It's like, you don't know how much shit they're going to get just for coming out against someone who already has a fan base. Yeah, the fans don't want to hear that. They think they know this person and this person is the best. Exactly.
What you'll see in Scott Scotty's video. So like this whole immediate accusation that you always see of like, Oh, they're just doing it for the fan. They're just cloud chasing. It's like, no, this is the worst way to get any cloud.
It just drives you away from social media, drives away away from everything. Because all you're getting is just more drama, basically. That's what that's what Seth said originally is that like he wants to forget all this. He doesn't want to relive these moments.
You know what I mean? Constantly. Also, something interesting to say about Scott as we watch his video is that he is an investor in dispo, which means he has a vested interest. He has a vested interest in maintaining David's good image.
Obviously, now I'm not saying that heading to do what this response will be like. It's like conscious or unconscious. You do have a vested interest. Yeah, I mean, it's a conflict of interest, right?
You know, it's like you can't just come out and defend. You know, it says investor. David just posted this. When he posted this, maybe like a few days ago on Instagram, it was from last week, last week.
So Scotty and Jason and a lot of those guys are investors in dispo. So they all have a vested interest in protecting the brand and the image and everything, you know. So a conflict of interest for sure. Worth definitely worth bringing up, I think.
So I wasn't really sure how to respond to this video exactly. I'm just going to play it and pause it and respond as I have so many thoughts about this video. There's so much I want to say about it. And I'm not really sure the best way.
So I'm just going to play it and comment as we go, Seth gave me a comment to read. I'm going to read it after we respond to all this just because you'll have the full context if you haven't yet seen his video, because it alludes to certain parts of his video and stuff. So let's just go ahead and watch. Basically, David Dobrik responded via proxy.
Scotty. I mean, pretty much, right? I was thinking to myself how funny would it be whenever you got in shit you sent me, right? By myself.
That's exactly what it is. I mean, that's exactly what happened because people like you more than me. So let's say I do something messed up and I go, you know, can you go out there and explain things and then people are more receptive because they like you. That's what Scotty's doing.
You know, this just goes to show how that just goes to show how disposable interest the name of David's app is how he thinks about his friends. He's like sends Scotty out to the wolves. And also, there's a lot of cult like fives that you'll pick up in this video too, which is what Nick was saying is that it's kind of culty and you'll see that here because Scotty's one of the beautiful people, right? He's one of the good one of the he is, right?
You know what I mean? Like he's one of the insiders. He's one of the cool kids. Okay, here we go.
What's up guys? I am totally sick of seeing my friends names get dragged through the mud because of false allegations and lies and just things that aren't true. So I'm going to address some of those allegations and defend my friends. They haven't said anything because typically the vlogs, why it does not address rumors and lies and gossip because the platform's the person telling the lies draws attention to it.
And we know who we are. We know our character. We know we're good people and we know it's not true. But I thought this was really interesting already setting the tone, right?
I mean, he kind of gave something away when he says that we don't platform lies. We don't respond because it platforms them and it gives them attention. What if they're not lying though? Right.
Right. But what he's actually giving away is that they do have this this happens. This happens kind of frequently is what I'm getting. Right.
And they have this spoken rule to just ignore, ignore, don't give attention. And it's all I mean, look, all of it's untrue, apparently, according to Scotty. By the way, in the very beginning, he says, he says of Seth again. And this is why people are going and shitting on Seth.
What's up guys? I am totally sick of seeing my friends names get dragged through the mud because of false allegations and lies and just things that aren't true. So I'm going to so he's continued. He keeps referring to these allegations by Seth as false and lies.
Yet you'll notice about the video, he does literally nothing to dispute what Seth said. I don't know how he missed the point so badly, man. Guys draws attention to it. And we know who we are.
We know our character. We know we're good people and we know it's not true. But we mean, we suddenly have to all of you. That's really good.
We're good people. We know who you are. Nobody's accusing you of anything. Like I feel like maybe this comes from a good place of you thinking you're defending your friends, but it's just not right.
This isn't your place to even say something. No one is talking about you. But now you're coming in and throwing more shit at the person who's got the false allegation, apparently, based on why is it false? Like you haven't it's not including you.
The guys that are involved in it should come and say something. Yeah, the fact that he's even responding to this, but this goes back to the quote, like thing. It's like, we we we no no no no. David is the one that's moving up.
David is the one that's fucking blowing up as your channel. I mean, I was kind of, but it's not we we it's David David David and he's using you yet again, bro. And this has nothing to do with you and somehow you're putting yourself in front and to shield David from like this, this onslaught of bulletin, like you didn't have to do that. Because you're in the fucking mud with him.
You didn't help him at all. You're just in the mud, not with him. It's just even more revealing of their whole culture. Where could people?
Where could people? So there's no way, by the way, according to Trisha, that Scotty wasn't even involved in any of the stuff. He wasn't there during the pranks. He wasn't there during the stuff stuff.
He barely knew stuff. So like you don't know, dude, it's like doesn't involve you. To a point where it's such a serious accusation that it needs to be addressed. Everybody makes mistakes.
I am not an angel. I definitely made mistakes myself. I love that he said that it's such a serious allegation. It should be addressed.
That's exactly what everyone is asking for. That it should be addressed by the people. Not by you, but that is all people are asking for. Just address stuff.
David and Jason and whoever is involved directly in a situation. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of unconscious irony. Make mistakes is to learn and grow from those mistakes.
That being said, telling a lie is a mistake. It's tough. And there's been a lot of that going around. First of all, David's a great person.
Jason's a great person. In fact, they're both fantastic people. David doesn't have a mean bone in his body. He's so nice.
When someone does something that really upsets him, he gets disappointed instead of angry. I'd be like, why'd you do that? I think that's not cool. This part was so weird to me.
He starts by saying these guys can have done this because they're great guys. They're really nice to me. Also, he goes, he goes, Shredder, got a cent of Scott's bullshit. He goes, David doesn't get mad at people.
He just gets disappointed. It's like, I'm sorry. What is he, your fucking grandmother? How many, what is there to be mad about so much?
Just get mad people. It's kind of funny that they have so many outspoken protocols. Right. He's just such a great guy.
He only gets disappointed at people. Never mad. Again, very cool. The thing is that he may be nice to you, and that doesn't mean anything about what he does with other people.
Of course. Especially because I'm one of the beautiful people. That's again why you shouldn't really be involved in this conversation. What does that say about the power dynamic where David being disappointed means anything?
Like, cool fucking cares. You know what I mean? Be mad. Be mad.
What does it mean? Be disappointed? He's not your parent. It's just odd.
I find that statement very odd in telling, like from a psychological standpoint. I wonder if David's going to be showing some disappointment to Scotty for this one. Not anger though. That's disappointment.
Jason, also, is like the sweetest, most caring there for you anytime you need an important life to you. Have you heard Trisha? Have you heard like she ended up in a mental hospital? I'm glad they were nice to you, dude.
Like what the fuck? Were you in a relationship with her? It's crazy how I can miss the point. Once again, I truly think that in the age of me too, and everybody's so woke about it, she's like this, the very fact that it's a male victim just makes everybody forget about everything they ever learned in the past 10 years about it.
Because this is just classic victim dismissal. And you know, this kissing prank, I guarantee you, if it was instead of Seth happened to like Natalie, which is like this girl that everybody loves, it was where Jason was putting his tongue down her throat and touching her thigh and her back, that this guy would be fucking, this guy would be outraged, Jason would be a jason, go to jail. You know what I mean? Like it's so obviously would be pure outrage if the gender is well reversed.
I would like to think that, but I honestly don't even know. I think it would be. People get away with a lot of shit. Because it, okay, I'm not going to make some sense.
I'll see them being attacked like this. It's just like, it's ridiculous. If you watch David's vlogs, you've seen people come and go from them from time to time. And it's always that person group part, their career path changed.
They didn't want to be in the videos anymore. And sometimes it's because they did something that wasn't cool. And it's like, all right, we're going to distance ourselves from you now. And that's it.
I think that right now the how many people you guys inviting to your circle that are being need to be cut out? Sometimes people join the vlog and either their careers go fucking sideways or we have to cut ties with them. Okay, sounds healthy. That is fueled by a lot of unsubstantiated gossip and lies and that sucks.
You got to be careful with what you're putting out on the internet and the claims that you're making without verifying them. If you're telling a lie, it's snowballs become something that you cannot take back. You can't retract it. And then you just end up damaging people's lives for no reason and probably damaging your own life as well.
So I would just like to say don't call it sharing your truth if you're sharing a lie. Well, that is like the most ironic statement ever. Don't call it. It's not your truth to speak on.
This has nothing to do with you. And he continues to call it a lie. And you'll see as we go through that there's no fucking evidence that he shows that Seth lied about anything. Nothing.
Seth lied about nothing. He says what he directly addresses me towards the back. But I'm going to go. Well, here he says that it's not spread a lie that was snowballing around people's life that I think is directed to you based on the ending.
Because we're managing people's lives for no reason and probably damaging your own life as well. So again, I'll respond to him, I guess, when he mentions me at the end. But it's like this is Seth telling his story directly. He says do your research.
I don't know what more research I can do other than having the account of the person it happened to. Yeah, I mean, that's that's a first-hand account, bro. That's like as solid as it gets. I mean, what do you want from me?
Exactly. Apparently. And then they always say, you should have reached out to David. I'm sure David would respond to me about this just like he's been ignoring staff for two years, just like Phil DeFranco said he reached out to him and didn't get comment.
I love this expectation that I need to reach out to everybody and just wait forever for them to give me a response like I owe them that. It's not like we have a relationship with David. Also, this isn't 60 minutes, bro. Like, but like you, he wouldn't have responded to me.
He doesn't respond to me, but you literally just say anything. He's got the biggest platform in the world. Just say what do you have to say? He started the video by saying that we don't respond to this shit, but I should have reached out today.
Okay. Okay. So I would just like to say don't call it sharing your truth if you're sharing a life. Yeah, that's like the most fucked up thing.
That is just seriously such so stupid. I mean, it's so, it's so missing the point. I can't believe that he actually said that. That's what that's exactly what victim shaming is.
Don't share your truth if the truth is like who are you to determine that, bro? Look at that smug face on him right now. He's like, right, I just I just did something to you. I just did something to you.
I cannot is smart. It's not true. It's not true. Somebody's coming in.
Go low. I cannot is smart. I didn't even hear it. He's smart.
He's David and Jason of sexual assault for a kissing prank that was done in 2017, which is so fucked up because he was part of the videos. He knows what we do. And then after the prank was finished, David asked him long after that. I had an idea to pull the prank on him again.
So I thought it would be fucking for you to ask him. I think we'll be all right. I'm very confused by that. Because how the hell could you be so confident to tell me that I have to consent to something that I'm not going to know that I'm going to do?
David films hours and hours of footage and cramps them into four minutes. Okay. So again, again, again, I have to say, he accused me of not doing research, but he clearly didn't even watch our interview because we fucking addressed this. But also he brushed so fast over the first incident.
He's mentioning there was a kiss in front. Yeah. And then he goes into talking about the second time right away. The point, the big point here, Scott, is that the first one, there was no consent.
And that was the first one was the trauma. You know, and so I don't know how you missed that. But then he goes on to say, Oh, well, he filmed him. So his evidence that that was okay.
Is that well, he filmed him the second time. And what he said clearly is not giving consent, by the way. And also, as David's as Seth said in the interview, if you watch it, would you clearly did it? And your criticizing me for not doing research is Seth said that he never gave consent.
And he told him not to do it. And all David cut in was this clip of him saying, how can I give you consent if I don't know what you're going to do, which is literally not consent. He also explained something that you don't seem to understand is just the pressure in the situations. And as a victim, you may be going along with it because you're on camera, you're trying to look cool, you're trying to be cool with the fans.
So the fact that he kind of went along with the second one or whatever, that doesn't mean that it wasn't a traumatic experience or that he has now trauma with himself after the fact. Yeah, that's that's like one of the classic victim shaming, let's say fallacies. There's like, there's a bunch of victim shaming fallacies and hits on all of them. One of them is like, why did why did it take so long to come forward?
Because you know, it's like, the fact I have to explain this stuff is ridiculous. Because I know he knows this. If it was a girl, he would know this. Why did it take so long for her to come forward?
A lot of victims often don't realize that they've been traumatized until years later, because it takes time to figure things out in your mind. Okay, why didn't she leave sooner? I'm just I'm using it in terms of understanding from the female perspective, because so you understand it's got you. Why didn't she leave sooner?
A lot of times, victim abuser relationships are really complicated. And the victim often wants to please the abuser to be accepted by them, right? It's complicated relationship. He says later in the video, if it's so serious, why didn't he go to the police?
Again, why didn't she go to the police? Another one. I mean, that's such a complicated question to ask why didn't it take so long to figure this out to even think whether there was a crime, you know, it's not specifically there's so much baggage where he comes from. And I mean, they really need to go there.
It's like, yeah, it may not be that easy for him to go to the police. He had something you don't understand. I'm saying this now, he hasn't said it yet, but he will, because he literally hits every single fallacy victim shaming fallacy. The one he said in the beginning, he was nice to me.
Okay, it doesn't mean that he did anything bad to anyone else. And then he goes on to try to assassinate his character, calls him a clout chaser. We'll get into it. I'm getting ahead of myself, but like he's so missing the point, bro.
The videos he knows what we do. And then he knows what we do. Finish David, how is that what you do? That's not what you do.
You didn't get pranked like that. Show me where you had Jason stick his tongue down your throat and grab your ass and also have David admit on camera on his podcast, which Scott never addresses that it was racially motivated because he knew he was from Compton. Bro, I had an idea to pull the prank on him again. So I thought it would be that I'm very confused by that.
Because how is it so confident to tell me that I have to consent to something that I'm not going to know that I'm going to do. David films, wow, did you hear consent? Did you hear consent? Well, I think he's alluding to the fact that he cut it out, probably, or something, because he has to cut down the food.
No, that was in the video. We talked about it. We showed it when we interviewed Seth. I said, what is this?
He's basically calling Seth a liar. I know, but he didn't nobody cut that out. We that was in the original video. No, he's saying David has to cut out his footage because he shoots for so much about the videos only for 20 minutes.
Yeah, but Seth explained that. He said he never gave him consent, which is evidence by the fact that he never showed him saying it still beside the point because he's not addressing the first time. He did not consent to the first time or the second time though or the second time he didn't consent to the second time. He failed to prove that he can send it to the second time.
He doesn't show footage showing otherwise. No, he failed to show that and Seth already explained this, which he clearly didn't see. Hours and hours of footage and cramps him into four minutes and 20 seconds for his vlog. So this clip was cut short to not actually show Seth giving his consent, but showing where he's asking for the question.
I was like, okay, so show, I was like, okay, so show, I was like, good, I was that good. If you're showing, yes, it's fine. Then include it. You never fucking showed it.
You literally never showed it. And I was like, what the hell is this sorry ass video? You think David would go and film this bit if Seth had said no? No, no, proven.
What am I supposed to just trust? What the fuck? What kind of one are you trying to make? Do you really think his defense is?
Do you really think they would do that? He is such a nice guy. Okay, bro. You think he bleaches his tips?
You think that's his natural hair color? I'm just curious because I like his hair. Yeah, because I'm in the market now for tip advice. I think that's natural.
Really? Yes. Oh, AB says he's a redhead naturally. Wait, is he redhead?
No, what? I mean, is that kind of red hair? That's right. I guess.
AB is the expert on all this. Here, you start me. Go ahead, baby. You can move.
Tell me about it. I was trying to find a picture of him with his natural hair color. That's not his natural hair. But it'd be cool.
You know, he's not like, no, you know, I wonder, you think I put me in touch with the stylist after this video? You literally just sent me a JFIF file. Like what the fuck is this? What am I like?
What are you sending me? I try to run it around a lip converter. He sent me a file of a JFIF file. It says it just shows like an empty file.
Like it does not open it. I don't know why I say it. Let's move on. Anyway, nice hair Scotty.
In hell. This is probably got the okay. This is important. And really, isn't?
Here's his natural hair. You're right. It's not important. It's not.
Let's move on. Here at a time when David was always at my house editing and I very vividly remember when he was editing that clip, there was a clip in there of Seth agreeing and giving his permission to film this bit again. He was like, there's no way you're going to get it on me again. There's no way you're going to get it on me again.
Not yet. Go ahead. Go for it. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Where's the clip, bro? I mean, even if that existed.
Yeah, exactly. It doesn't. It's the first time. I still don't think that it would change my mind that much about anything.
It's just, it's just more of a comment about how like poorly conceived this video was. Yeah. But you're right, because he fails to adjust the first time, by the way, and the podcast clip, which I think he must not have seen either while accusing me of not doing my research, and which David says, I'll show it again for to because some people may not have seen it. In fact, let me just open it.
So Scotty, if you're watching this, I do think that this is a very important clip, which you did not mention, which is from the podcast. It was so perfect. And I feel so bad. And it's just, it's awful because four guys have to go through that.
And his friends are probably going to chew them out for that for the next like three, five years of his life. Well, as Seth tells it, the homosexuality is not so accepted in his where he comes from. That's from Compton. Dude's kissing dudes is not so from Compton.
So it's like the perfect, like the straight dudes gets a perfect setup, like a guy from Compton. And I made a make out with another older man. It's good for Seth. Yeah, it's good for him.
It gets him some air time. He got to say it was really bad. Yeah, Scotty. You didn't respond to that part, dude.
Like why didn't you respond to that if you're all about research and putting out the truth? That seems really fucked up. And you know, something that stands out to me again is when I interviewed Seth, it struck out to me how they specifically targeted him because he was minding his own business. He just got back from the airport.
He was driving home and they specifically call him and say come over like this prank was for Seth. They specifically targeted Seth. And Seth said I think it was racially motivated. And I was like, well, that'd be messed up if it's true, but like how can I know this clip came out?
And I was like, oh my god, he was right. It was definitely racially motivated. So Scotty, I mean, where are you at? We're on the facts on the research, you know?
Wake up Scotty. Wake up Scotty. No, you're never done somebody. That's what we say that in chat.
So this is after so now he shows a clip of after again, this is all public shit, right? Like we've talked about all this. This is after the second prank, the beef jerky prank. Again, so go ahead, go for it.
You're fucking betting me. This motherfucker told me. He's in shock. If you've listened, Seth talked about it.
Excuse me. He was in shock because he thought he was getting this big commercial deal. He told his family he was depending on the money. And he pulled the fucking rug out from under him.
It was all fake. And he left his empty handed to what you didn't mention about how in the commercial deal he was meant to get $2,500. And then David wasn't going to pay him. He was like, dude, I need that money.
Like I've been. And it's just the fact that he's even showing this clip just shows how he doesn't know anything about like victim. Again, because Seth explained he's like it was either throw hands or be cool about it. Yeah, he's on camera.
He's put on the spot. This is like it doesn't mean anything. No, it's insane. It's really sad because it seems like as people say Scottie is an otherwise really nice guy.
So it's just weird to see a guy miss the point so much. I think it's more of a testament to the cultish vlog squadie and David definitely put him up to this even if it was subconscious by sending him that extra evidence you get which you guys will see. And being like, you know what I mean? Like he knew he was going to make the big he fucking let him throw his ass to the walls, bro.
Respect the fucking man that keeps his working. You can tell by his reaction at the end of the video that he was pranked. It was all in good fun and he gave permission before him. He gave you.
This is no. No, what you're saying is not first of all him reacting like that is not proof he gave permission. No. How was that mean?
Was that even mean? And also he's in shock. Clear. I mean, props on getting him with that prank a second time.
Some of David's vlogs happened just like in real time, you know, like and if something will happen and he captures it on film, but most of these things are preconceived and everyone talks about like what bit is going to be filmed. So a lot of things that Seth was in were his ideas not saying that was this one was this one preconceived. Did Seth know obviously not based on the way David talked about him on his podcast and what Seth's first account. So what is your point here?
These kissing pranks were his ideas, but he did give consent to them and he partook him. You have not been able to say this after and before the next ones and was totally fine with it. Like I'd never heard from him about being uncomfortable. Why would you force anyone to do anything again?
Bro, you this is so sad. This is like a this is like a tutorial on how to victim shame. So you you never heard him say he's uncomfortable. So therefore it must be a lie.
Did you hear him say on our podcast that he was uncomfortable? Do victims of abuse just walk around talking about how uncomfortable they are? Yeah. You know, he even said in his interview, which again you didn't watch about how it took him a while to internalize it and understand the dynamic of the group and how it was affecting him and how he's like the butt of all these racist jokes again that you don't acknowledge.
Because it clips somewhere of Seth pranking Jason. Okay, so now we move on to the victim. Dragon's that the character assassination portion of this video. Okay, Seth did a prank we put his ass in Jason's face.
So it excuses what happened to him. Sorry, bro. I don't know. I'm not fucking on board with this argument at all.
And what's your point of bringing this up exactly? Well, he put he's put his ass in Jason's face once. So that's all the excuses being assaulted. Yeah.
Like sassy. This is like everybody's fucking around with each other here. We're all friends and like sorry, but it's not fucking around. David looked through his text messages and found one of Seth's numbers asking him to do the kissing prank a third time.
Seth literally requested to do it. This is important. This is where you know David's involved. And this is probably how David got his ass to make the video.
And this is interesting because it's an insight that how really David feels about this situation. This is David's response. You know. So here he goes.
A third time. Guys, this is a text from Seth from about two years ago. He goes, yo bro, I was thinking about it. I'm down for another kissing sketch.
I said, Haha, what do you mean? He goes, well, I don't really care as long as you clout me up. I'm not gay. Just don't care.
And then he says this. I mean, I don't know if Seth completely forgot. Again, the fact that he says in that that he's more open minded now, mean that he was pissed off about the previous two times. But as I kind of said, it's like the fact that Seth has to do it a third time does not negate anything that happened before.
I mean, it doesn't mean that he can still feel the way he feels now. That is what happens to victims in abusive situations. You can go back and want it again. And that doesn't mean that two years later, you're going to realize or 10 years later, you're going to realize that you were in a really fucked up situation.
You were being used and abused. And you crave their approval. You crave their attention. You crave their, their, their approved.
Yeah. So that's how I see this. You're just missing the point and you're pointing it as like the big slam dunk. Like, hey, look, he wanted you a third time.
No one knew that. Why'd you go back? That's like a why'd you go back then? Felicity.
Yeah. He wants the approval of David. He wants the approval of the vlog squad. It's this really powerful potent thing, right?
And it's so bad. And so much comes with it. So much good things come with it. And then he thinks himself, maybe I made him stay.
Maybe I am overreacting. Maybe I should be cool with them again and be in with them again. Maybe it's good for my career. What am I doing?
I want to please them. I need this attention for my career. Yeah, yeah, all these stuff. So he says, you know what, I mean, maybe I should do it again, you know, get them cool with them.
It'll be another video. I know I got fucked over the last few times, but this time I'll make sure I don't get fucked over clap me up. And he probably feels ashamed about even going back and asking for that third time. Right.
It's not really anything to, um, just not. It's not as fine. I'm sure he's very ashamed of that. But that doesn't mean anything about the accusation.
Right. And it's often very complicated like this, which is a reason why victims don't come forward. Yeah. Because there's a button.
There's people be like, oh, well, this and this and this and this. I was like, okay. You're carrying a lot of guilt and shame. Remember what he said?
Don't tell me your truth if it's a lot. Yeah. Oh, right time? Let's not do it now.
Yeah, I'm not going to do it right now. Peace and love. Got about that. Or if he just hoped that David would never find it the way that he hoped that David had a new computer and didn't have the extra four hours of footage.
No, I don't. Okay. Let me go back. Fuck it.
Don't ask. I don't think he forgot about it. Dude. I'm sure he didn't.
I didn't know if Seth completely forgot about that. Or if he just hoped that David would never find it the way that he hoped that David had a new computer and didn't have the extra four hours of footage that surrounded the four minute and 24 hours. So what are you referring to? Because I haven't seen that footage.
He's just saying. Yeah. Oh, how convenient. Yeah.
He's saying though that he's lying. But that's interesting because it implies that they were looking for it together. Right. Right.
We got to take this fucking step guy out instead of just apologizing to them. Yeah. Because that would have still been only consent for the second time. But what about the first time?
You're still not addressing the richly motivated first time. Not addressing it. Yeah. Got it.
Wake up Scotty. Cluted. The bit of him consenting to the prank. But what you're doing is fucked up.
Seth. Also, you posted revenge porn of our friend Aaron. Do you know how that's affected her? You posted revenge porn, which is actually it's 100% illegal.
It's totally immoral. And so, so fucked up. Did you get her consent? I don't mean it sounded aggressive.
Okay. So this is something that gets brought up a lot by people who are, I guess, trying to defend David. Now, again, this is further character assassination and what about is him. Whatever Seth has done has whatever he said did in that situation has literally nothing to do with this.
And he's trying to change the conversation. He's trying to assassinate Seth's character legitimize him. That being said, it is something that comes up a lot. And although I'm not here to defend Seth in any way, I looked into it.
And I just, because I really want to understand, I mean, it sounds like what happened. So there's this girl. I'm just going to, I'm not defending Seth. I'm just explaining what happened because it took me a minute to understand the situation.
So there's this girl Seth who used, and correct me if I'm wrong, at any point, maybe because I know you're familiar with all the timeline. There's this girl Aaron who was a part of the vlog squad. Her ex-boyfriend, there's a clip of her using a racial slur, the N word. But she was naked in that clip.
A private client. It wasn't public. It was a private clip that her ex-boyfriend took of her or something like that. And he threatened, I guess she said in her video that he was blackmailing her to put it out.
Senator Horrible, I mean, horrible situation. The ex-boyfriend. Yeah, I mean, I felt really, the ex-boyfriend, the ex-boyfriend was threatening her in black mailing her. Where's the horrible situation?
I felt really bad for him. He's absolutely terrible. And so apparently he does release it, or she said that he wanted money or something, and some guy, by the way, Jesus. Yeah.
And she said she's not going to pay him. So he put it out there of her naked saying the N word. Okay. And so that's out there by her ex-boyfriend.
And then Seth makes this video in response to the vlog squad. He called it fake activism, because he felt like these guys do have signs of racism amongst them. And but they were doing all this like Black Lives Matter stuff. And so he's like, oh, this is fake activism.
So he made a video about their fake activism. And in that video was very briefly Aaron saying the N word. But just to say he did, he didn't even blur. He totally blacked out the bottom part and it was just her head saying it.
So when I watched that video back, I had no idea that she was naked or anything but. So Seth included that video in his compilation very briefly. And that's basically what happened. Now should Seth have included that clip in his compilation?
No, it was messed up because it was a private clip. It was calling attention to it. And I definitely don't think that Seth should have included that clip. And I understand her being like, I just don't want people, you know, it's like so traumatic.
It's something so traumatic for her the whole situation. So Seth should not have included that in his clip. But so no, I'm not going to defend Seth on that situation. But I do think it's important to understand what actually happened because to just be like, oh, he shared revenge P word.
Fast oversimplification of what happened. I kept hearing that because that's something a lot of people would bring up now. And I had imagined something like. Well, revenge porn is true.