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EPISODE · Apr 5, 2026 · 58 MIN

the vulnerability of leaving: healing from spiritual + religious trauma with Dr. Karis McClammy

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Sometimes the bravest thing you can do is walk away.Too many of us have been hurt by systems that promise to care for us, much like spiritual and religious institutions. For black women, it can look like “big T” traumas like physical or financial harm and control, and it can also look like “little T” traumas like psychological and emotional abuse. From constant guilt tripping, to learning harmful rhetoric about our minds and bodies, we sometimes look up too late, only to notice the leaders we loved were hurting us in return.To help us unpack our journey out of spiritual abuse, we’re joined by Dr. Karis McClammy, an Atlanta-based psychologist with expertise at the intersection of Spiritual/Religious and Relational trauma. We tackle:Recognizing signs of religious and spiritual traumaThe vulnerability of walking away from harmful spaces when we called them homeThe tension between needing others and trusting yourselfRebuilding after leaving cults, abusive religious and spiritual spaces, and other harmful communitiesHow institutional harm and relational harm meet in the middleRepairing your relationship with yourself after walking awayTaking the pen to explore and define your own relationship with spirituality or religionThis month’s theme is the vulnerability of something new. We’re exploring the new ways we face and grow through common (or not so common) problems. Stay tuned for more on joy, new ways to heal, and facing the past with courage. Enjoyed the episode? Subscribe, like, share, and stay tuned for more!Keep the conversation going on our Instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/blackgirlseen⁠Never miss an episode by subscribing to the Seen Sunday newsletter: ⁠https://blackgirlseen.myflodesk.com/seensunday⁠ Read The Day God Saw Me as Black by D. Danyelle Thomas and find suggested readings from the podcast here: https://bookshop.org/shop/blackgirlseenFind resources and support: ⁠www.blackgirlseen.com/support⁠ Learn more about Black Girl Seen at ⁠www.blackgirlseen.com

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