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Even though plants are already alive, Rod. He's been eating people, because that's what I do. I didn't know that your plant and vision killed me. Oh, I get it.
And killed all of them. And you have an anger problem. I do have an anger problem, but I think someone calls me Gary. I receive that, and I have so much rage inside of me.
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But luckily, we want to bridge the branches. We want people to understand the podcast. We want them to do the understanding world better. And in that vein, Rod, tell the sweet, lovable decades what this podcast is all about.
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That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Keep listening. Stop listening.
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So we've been doing this for a while now. And we've done so many, wait. We've been doing so many topics. Each of us have done over 20 different topics.
Not quite 30 yet. We're close to each of us having the 30 topics. Beautiful. So I wanted us to present to the other, the other, the other wild cards topics.
We think would be good for them to present. And so when we think about like a Jeff, what is a Jeff episode do you run? Not don't we list your answer. What is a Jeff episode?
Jeff is so. Jeff episodes often deal in adventure and a scintillating story. The scintillating may not be the word. I don't know.
A scintillating story. Off an adventure is often historical. Very fascinating pieces of work. I agree.
The ones I picked fit that made entirely. Yeah. I think the ones for Jeff that I've chosen. So what did you pick for Jeff?
For Jeff, I would love to hear your report on the Boston Massacre. That's an interesting story with John Adams defending the British. One of the things I picked for Jeff was the Waco siege. Oh, that is a good one.
I just listened to a documentary on that a few weeks ago on the French and the Indians. That's a kooky story. I'm going to get into it. The more you learn about that, the more you go, what the fuck happened?
That's crazy on both sides. So that's my first one. That's my first one. That's my first one.
What's your second one? My second one is the report on the Federal Theater Project, which was part of Franklin Roosevelt's Works Progress. I've never heard of anything. What it is, it's federal funds to foster the arts in the theater.
That'd be nice. And they met with a great deal of resistance though. Because the arts programs are usually a progressive medium where you shine a mirror to the rest of society and say this is what it's about. And of course, the government doesn't want you to really get progressive or shine a light on what's happening in the world.
So there was a great deal of friction with that program that I think you'd be very interested in learning more about. And then doing one. So that's why I chose that for you. Jeff, are you familiar with the Essex?
Essex? Essex is a boat. I don't know. Have you ever ever read Bobi Dick?
I've seen the movie episode. I know the story. So the story was based on a boat called the Essex. And they were whalers.
And it's about what happened to them when they were attacked by a sperm whale and their ship was destroyed. And they had to survive in the water. It was very much like other ones you got in the past. Wow.
Right up to the death of the valley. Some slosh buckling, some survival push to the limits. There might be some cannibalism in there. Oh my god!
That attacked by, did you say it was a sperm whale? Oh, they're so big. It's the largest carnivorous whale. That's the carnivorous whale.
Oh, they were carnivorous. Oh, that scares me more than before now. Wow. Essex is a great idea.
Oh, that's scary though. Do you have any more for Jeff? No, I've got another for Jeff. We've got to mention Nazis.
Oh, yeah. I may be a professor myself. Colditz Castle? Colditz?
Colditz Castle? I've heard of this. This was like the prisoner of war dungeon castle that allies, truthfully held in. Is this where they built a glider to escape?
It tried many, many ways to escape from this castle. I called it escape from colditz castle because there were so many attempts by the allies who came out of this place. And the ways they came up with were ingenious. That would be a great story.
Is that stalacter team in the general story or Hogan's heroes? Which I thought was based on stalacter team. I don't know what I'm talking about. We'll look at it.
three Jeff so I think those are all great guys so what encompasses a Ron is so something spontaneous office with gore also whimsy and and and bond childhood memories of um of educational I did nothing I did nothing in the vein of whimsy and childhood or entertainment I mean like in terms of because even like the foundation of almost in ethnographic sorry actually close like entertainment is definitely fit you I didn't think in that vein though the first one I picked for you was cryptids oh no because we've just done got it's all you could do just like we did the three part episode all through a religion you know you could do something like big foot in a lot of a monster or you can do smaller ones with lectures devil right goes that's something I think you can do that yeah I was obsessed with a lot of this monster when I was a kid I think not just like here what the reports are here's people who have been in the bunk yeah I would be most interested in the debunking yeah because I feel like well because there's famous evidence but where what the words that come from well that's the thing if there were concrete evidence they would be cryptids anymore right and that's the thing and so I like it when they get debunked and say this is just a normal part of nature or when they say no we really can't explain it those are fascinating to cryptozoology as a as a whatever it is what is an interesting study in general absolutely I agree cool I want Ron to do an episode on why the wall would make a great musical that's coming right after the fourth ultimate challenge and then that'll be the next one a few ones down the line from that it'll entail us watching the film together again and then we don't see that that's great in the same thing as the cryptids I just wrote serial killers but we didn't want on we didn't want on generally we didn't do one like Charles Manson or was it BTK like I don't want the zodiac killer but we haven't touched a lot of my notes like John McGacy like a lot of those are kind of your interests I think you can talk about any of those and have many of those yeah there's an average serial killer yeah yeah yeah I've done a lot of independent research on on serial killers my second one is I want you to do a report on John Hughes and John Hughes films oh fuck man oh yeah I don't you will have to bet you John you the number of time you never done a report on you his career was way too short yeah and it only lasted to us to the public you know 15 or so years but he's not going to work that's way that's the iconic films that he made within that time and the work that he did before for National Impoon and all that brilliant work yeah I could I could I love that shift went entirely entertainment oh yeah and I went entirely dark because my last one for you and I consider the way coast each for you yeah but I'm like I'm like that's Jeff better whereas the Jonestown masochor it's wrong better funny enough I just listen to a documentary on that about a week or two ago that would like a season don't sound like I have some similarities in terms of other charismatic individual they do well yes but I feel like Jones down to you better wake up if yeah it does it does it it'd be interesting to compare the two though yeah oh man it's just a my I know this can be tough to say to a single episode they certainly could be interesting Jonestown has been I saw the film with powers booth in a sociology class in high school and ever since then I've been really interested in it I feel like I'd heard of it before where I asked my parents it was like 7881 somewhere around there's 82 so I would certainly ask my mom what is this all about and I don't remember her answer anything but I guarantee you I asked about it that's that's to a seven or eight year old you can't remember a nine hundred person Mass suicide yes the child you go what what is that you know I believe it's 1978 I don't know Jerry's look at it that was probably yeah all right and for what constitutes a great episode knowledge knowledge science and scientific background precision and order and order right but every once in a while Jared dips into the darkness I enjoy it's true I enjoyed it so I enjoyed your your episode when we solved okay cross-grimmosis is yeah we solved education I'd like us I'd like you to lead us in solving global warming oh good one yeah I'm afraid it'll have a bit of a downer of an ending after there's some gloomy about it lately though they are not no but we can't be we have to live our lives if nothing's wrong but we also have some problems we know how to solve those are just what's funny you say that because out of the two that I made for Jared one of them says fix something yeah I love the case episodes and I don't care what we fix as long as we get to throw our power out my next one's gonna be there might be something I take a look after that one all right all right yeah those are fun what was your next what I enjoyed his I enjoyed your presentation on come from a way I'd like you to do another musical like rent or punch back or something that you're really into it and yeah you're gonna have to make it or wiggly blonde or bring it on or something you're really into that's right right high school musical I don't know I don't know my second one for Jared is the black doll yeah okay I would love to hear that I think you tell an LA story really well yeah it's kind of nourished so you kind of fit that vein I appreciate it great you know and the black dolly was very fascinating interesting and then I have a list of just possible things for Jared because I thought they'd be funny but I don't know whether they're actual Jared okay one is a is a episode on nudist colonies the president oh okay this is the way I started was like KFC tuberculosis so yeah I can definitely random yeah nudist colonies history shorts oh yeah absolutely yes um this one was suggested to me by man that's an episode for me I didn't work for me so I'm giving it to you they're generous cheese Wow just Jesus I'm all about it he said that's true that's funny I almost did a cheese episode yeah and then I looked at the whole scope of it I went no I'm not I'm not technically all cheap all she has no way well deck is we would love to hear from you what you topics you love here and if you have a specific wildcard you would like to present that topic you can let us know what that is well we have done that one episode it was a viewer request yeah request yeah request well they watch something on the phone right as we talk from it so but you are lucky to listen because this week is a Jeff so you're safe so yeah you're safe there's not you're not gonna get too much science probably right you're not gonna get Ron so Jeff what have you what have you done for me you remember when we like we like an eagle oh I do I know well today we're going to go beyond behind the nylon curtain we're gonna throw some rocks at glass houses excellent then we're gonna go through some turnstiles to enjoy some street light some street life serenade with the stranger on 52nd Street oh it's been a bit innocent man on the bridge over the river of dreams okay and when the storm front moves in we're going to go meet up with the piano man who's going to sing a song from the attic to sue our fantasies and delusions was that every album was every album right there yeah see I was right in the same like I don't know this crap and what's so weird is that both here and I thought of the episode this morning where we took the titles of so many episodes and yet you slap us with this serendivity that's exactly what it is right right it times out nicely so important so for today one of my favorite we are going to be doing the ultimate challenge oh no Billy Joel no no no Deborah's Deborah's Deborah's the greatest day of my life I don't say that so there's your jeopardy our categories for sing a first first jeopardy are going to be piano man yeah she's always a woman yeah she knows big shot pressure and scenes from a Italian restaurant I love it as you know in jeopardy you have your first round where this scores are one two three four five hundred dollars right then we'll have our double jeopardy round and then we'll have our five separate around I actually have I created a scorecard for myself to keep track of points wait would have been great if I brought one my kids to get score that's okay I think I can keep score I think I can handle it so hard hard so hard so hard it's so difficult well that's okay because I think the winner of this ultimate challenge gets the right to do another ultimate challenge right well the winner the loser of this ultimate challenge gets the right to sing weird aliankabitch's song I lost on jeopardy alright right right baby well he knows it I don't so maybe I'll win all right so target track so run yes you should I'm just gonna let you choose first category do we have to do the what is yes you have to give your answer in the phrase form of the quest you got it which is whoever says it first yeah we'll go that route but but if you jump in and you give it a correct answer you lose the point no that's fine okay I'm let's do this I'm excited all right I will take a pressure for 100 please all right pressure for 100 I didn't even know this song by him pressure every single one of these types of everything one of these categories of the song yeah I think about it for the other ones were something under pressure outside of oh all right yeah so pressure at 21 broke friendless loveless and depressed Billy Joel was forced to live with this person who was foot wait what you want that he was 21 he was broke friendless loveless and depressed who is his mother that is correct job Jared I went to move out all right Jared you get to choose the next category okay let's go piano man for 100 we like a pen so you can mark off the ones that we've said oh you got that's good I'm going to have to use my right hand on meeting with my left piano man for 100 yeah no man for 100 all right in 1972 while trying to extricate himself from a shady management deal Billy Joel moved to California took a job as a piano player in this club on Will Shire Boulevard what is the viper room that isn't correct yeah I have no guess the answer is what is the executive room all right Jared since you chose the last question and it was no one was able to answer it you get to choose next okay I'm in for 200 all right this was the alias that Billy Joel used as a lounge piano player I don't know I'm gonna lose it this one too who is Bill Martin Bill Martin that's better than Billy Joel well you pay more people to know what's his actual Billy Joel is that no William is a Martin I don't remember anyway okay so stick it same category okay so the only 300 on the bridge Billy Joel place and sings a piano duet with this legendary singer songwriter who is also one of his biggest influence was Ray Charles that is correct it is William Martin Joel is a way more than that was 300 to 200 now all right all right all right so Ron your choice let's down piano man okay for 400 yeah yeah man for 400 his family moved to Switzerland to escape the Nazis and eventually immigrated to the United States via Cuba his family did where's the answer here it's the person who oh the person oh Billy Joel's dad that is correct I won't make you name is that yeah I like Gary Joel who was Howard or helmet Joel he was a classical pianist and businessman he divorced Billy his mother in 1957 and moved to Austria where he got married and had another child his Billy Swiss brother Alexander Joel was the chief musical director of the Stocks Theatre Brooms week from 2001 to 2014 you know that area up there has bred a lot of really good performers you say as we bread baby I'm a long bread so run choose the next category please same category for 500 oh yeah no man for 500 in 2001 Billy Joel released this album a collection of classical piano pieces that he wrote the songs were performed by young key Jew grin pianist I said the name of this album in my intro shit oh shit yeah it's in the back of my head where I can get to it not I know what you're talking about it you get a lullabies or anything what is fantasies and illusions fantasies and illusions illusions deal it sure what have you all right so that category has been completed see if you all right all right Ron choose another category please let's go pressure for 200 pressure for 200 all right between 2002 and 2004 Billy Joel blamed these on street lighting local wildlife is poorly constructed Citron and 9-11 canceling shows what is canceling shows that is incorrect what is low audience attendance that is also incorrect what are three car accidents in truth they were from drinking he later checked into rehab oh yeah I knew he had a rehab thing I know he blamed the crisis on 9-11 so he blamed well then my street lighting local wildlife he's poorly constructed Citron 9-11 he ran into his house with one of these accidents gosh wow all right so your dog is really happy right now yeah you're out of it okay so Jerry no it's still wrong okay I'm gonna get one right a long time pressure for the reaper pressure for the very first question right that's probably the end of my abilities here this legendary Billy boys critics critic once the right of Billy Joel as a force of nature and bad taste who is Paulina Kale that is incorrect I have no idea all right so who is Robert Chris Gao who is Robert Chris yeah okay Ron same country for four pressure for 400 kind of close the sun a bit you know 2004 Billy Joel checked into this famous facility for rehab what is the many four-clinip that is correct nice all right Ron oh let's close it out okay pressure for 500 now this is a lyric from one of his songs from the song pressure so this is the beginning of the lyric now here you are with your faith and this what is Peter Pan advice oh what a good lyric yeah all right so good lyricist Ron yes hopefully the cat goes down let's open up she's always a woman she's always a woman for what let's go 100 all right she was married to this she was married to his drummer John Small and they met and fell in love excuse me podcasters daddy daddy no bark no bark okay so she was married to his drummer John Small when they met and fell in love who is Kristi Brinkley that is incorrect I got nothing okay who is Elizabeth Weber small no she was married to John Small and became his first wife okay okay so she's always a woman for 200 come here Billy Joel wrote this song for his first wife just the way you are that is correct what is just the way you are that is correct I would think of like two two without songs that are like that style right she's always the name of the category so I did go with that one yeah smart that's what I would go all right Jared you get to choose the next category let's go 300 all right get one some more points in 1982 playing in a piano bar while on vacation in Saint Bart's Billy Joel encountered these three women when they gathered around his piano three women three famous women oh thank you who are the ancestors incorrect they were El McPherson Kristi Brinkley and Whitney Houston Wow let's go 400 all right after getting divorced from her in 1993 Billy Joel stopped writing pop songs who was Kristi Brinkley that is correct I think she's gonna be answer what oh yeah I I figure 93 that's their timeline okay so Ron have we closed out it's always we have that let's go ahead and close it up this is why you have a scorecard in front of you to keep back these things you want me to keep track of things all right in 2004 she was 23 when she married Billy Joel who was 55 I do not know it's this is current life no it is not it is not a divorce they did wow that was quick no clue okay who was Katie Lee he picked her up in the lobby of the the pence peninsula hotel when she was in college she was only four years older than his daughter when they got married Wow I guarantee you Billy don't understand that this is creepy cuz my daughter says that that's creepy all the time all right to get a very we got big shot and we've got scenes from an Italian restaurant let's go scenes from Italian restaurant okay for what four one hundred okay scenes from an Italian restaurant was inspired by the B side of this Beatles album oh oh what is that he wrote what is that is correct nice thank you I'll say I only had two beat-ups all right Ron well let's go to okay this is what they wore while hanging out at the village green in the song scenes from a restaurant shit no that's not it no they weren't they weren't weird shit oh shit now I got it's gone what are engineer boots let it happens I did I mean I couldn't get to that lyric in my head quickly enough okay run on let's keep going for two or three three hundred see you want me to keep track okay these are the names of the popular king and queen of the prom who's Brendan Eddie that is correct I have been resisting bringing those things up I'll just keep this here that's probably okay okay you'll take to take care of me that's a sweet that's better like it to be to this all right go ahead Ron next since one of the time in restaurant 500 please it's 400 you got me over four hundred five hundred I think I worked up four hundred I should be ready call them I had that's what I had I'd like for like four and then five if I get this one correct I like to go right now my life okay like Jerry Rafferty this is what they bought with the bread that they save for a couple of years they bought a place they bought a place what is they bought a place that is incorrect yeah you just lost $400 you're still winning that I know what I love you have an answer of course I feel horrible what what is a water bed he bought a water bed Brendan Eddie yeah let's finish up the same for the down your restaurant for 500 yeah because of this Brendan Eddie started to fight oh what is a lack of money like red that is correct what was the money getting tight okay I will accept your version okay thank you thank you and now let's close out the big shot 100 down 500 unless you're in less than one dollar money up okay so big cover 100 you're saying yeah all right this is the year that Billy Joel was inducted into the rock and roll Hall of Fame what is 1998 that isn't correct okay it was a shot in the dark what is 1999 that is correct I just guessed wrong as well it's good well probably close ok it's so 200 ok it weirds me out when they jump around in 1978 Billy Joel won his first Grammy for record and song of the year for this what is she's always a woman that isn't correct now you know when in that category either I can guess something I was a stranger are we you're done yes I'm not sure what is just the way you are just the way you are trying to please me how I'm earlier yep okay so I'm not a picture for 300 okay in 1979 Billy Joel won the Grammy for best album of the year and best pop vocal performance for this album what is the stranger that isn't right I don't have an answer it was is it a man no it's 50 second street panomans way earlier does yeah the other man way just the way you are was on the stranger and so that was the year before so this 50 second street came out in 1979 gotcha ok 400 400 the last Grammy that Billy Joel won was for best rock vocal performance on this album what is River of Dreams that isn't correct yeah okay it was what is glass houses class houses that came just after a couple years I came after 50 second remember I didn't want an awesome Grammy since then since then that's ridiculous got robbed for 10 years River of Dreams was his final pop album yeah no I knew that's why I figured that's why it was his last Grammy because that's a great album he's looking a little scruffy on the videos but he was an alcoholic you know so Big Shot for 500 is the last one all right okay these are the three songs that reach number one on Billboard's top 100 song list three yes yeah three number one hits I can name one of them what is oh here we go you know man no I'm just a man no I was gonna get me the faith no I was gonna get we didn't start the fire that's not the only one that's one of them is that one of them I'm just guessing others no you're not guessing no of course not the other pretty good I never heard of okay so they were man was not a number tell her about it all that's the end of every single from an innocent man except for that it's still rock and roll to me and we didn't start the fire 1989 damn I was so wrong those are his three number one now he had well this is a different question I'm not gonna answer this question he released 61 singles over his his career though I thought several of them went to number one well he had well this is I'm not gonna answer these questions they're coming up okay so as the score stands at the end of our first round of jeopardy Ron has minus 500 and Jared has 200 it's true it's true only logical $1,000 but then he does I do all right so I for double jeopardy our numbers are categories are easy money which is a horrible movie and then in grad New York state of mind angry young man and it's still rock and roll to me I only heard of one of these songs I don't know angry young man you don't know angry young man I don't I know I know easy money goes on I don't seek Ron since you are losing you get to choose the first category well just keep in mind that these aren't about the songs as well as most of these more about the songs except for things from Italian restaurant right it's disturbing me that I don't know what it's okay yeah that's what I'm doing angry young man first we're 200 or 200 all right all right here we go I step up my game really doing after taking an overdose of nimbatol Billy Joel called this person to apologize for having an affair with his wife oh we said his name earlier what's it's small that is correct would you have checked the drummer if I know I need a name it was a drummer yeah it was a drummer earlier okay Jared let's go 400 for angry young man 400 okay this household cleaner was drunk by Billy Joel and his second suicide attempt what is drain out that isn't correct man what is ammonia that isn't correct to you what is furniture polish all right well fortunately I would think that would have succeeded okay the current score is Jared has zero and Ron has minus 900 I'm not sure okay I can't write right 600 600 600 angry young man 600 okay after this Billy Joel said to hell with it if I'm not going to Columbia if I'm not going to Columbia University or he's it to hell with it I'm not going to Columbia University I'm going to Columbia Records and you don't need a high school diploma over there what's the question after this after this this is Billy Joel said this okay no what is high school or what is not graduating what is not graduating high school okay so in graduate high school wow he is 25 years later he went back and I gave him his degree Adam Sandler plays him in the movie oh yeah Billy Joel Madison Billy Joel he missed one of his important exams in English so he failed that class that required class and they wanted to go to summer school he said to help with this I'm not going to summer school I'm going to go to the record right so 25 years later he said in his his some English exam papers and they gave him his diploma I'm a student man all right let's go 800 all right angry young man 800 I need this to be less than I go Billy Joel's first album Cold Spring Harbor never had a chance because of this this problem with the album from too far behind a guess I don't know if it gets it was mixed at the wrong speed and he sounded like Alvin and the Jell-ah that sucks well that's pretty funny okay Jared I'll say just category out every young man for one thousand in 1971 Billy Joel signed a 10 album contract with Artie Rip a family productions that also stripped him of these rights this is a positive you're right I want to say royalties but it's like what what a publication right that is great nice what are the publishing rights all Kurt and future songs oh man he signed that deal he signed that deal no shit Artie Rip was forced to sell these back to Joel in 1986 okay good because you know how much money he would have lost off a piano man alone in the last few years that song has research you're positive man no wow I was 1500 behind you were now yeah and then he lost 600 yeah I like to stop my mouth off is the problem yeah so what's your category New York state of mind 200 okay I'm in a new year I think only this category for the song oh you've never heard New York state of mind I mean I mean I would like I could say I think Billy Joel might know where you know these songs but you don't know the time so New York state of mind for 200 and for 200 yeah okay every month Billy Joel earns two million dollars to perform a single concert at this stage I knew that I knew that one because I see that'll face it all the time yeah all right Jared all right this New York actor was once Billy Joel's door man I can't answer what I've heard this story for I just don't know it I don't know the name of the actor but I've heard about this person I don't know it's like Gene Hackman that's not answering who was Nick Tetero John the dirt oh yeah and it's a good actor yeah 600 okay New York state of mind for 600 New York New York state of mind was written in 1976 while Billy Joel was doing this oh what is playing piano bar that isn't correct okay what is writing a great hum bus oh no okay oh there's about that great on bus I'm going to say masturbating that's the obvious answer that's his euphemism format of New York state you know Billy how many New York state fine you're saying mine for 800 all right in the song moving out this person becomes a bartender at night and mr. Catchettore is down on Sullivan Street who is Sergeant O'Leary that is correct nice you're up to a minus 300 now close not very positive very positive one thousand hundred one thousand you're trying to pick a song I know I'm not going to get that one if I get this one correct I'm only a hundred behind you I think yeah yeah okay so this is the town along I live where Billy Joel grew up I know clear no I can't okay where he's let it down love it town never yes yes it's all the houses look the same it was part of the works program middle age right it's the middle question you know all right so who who are still there choosing or wrong okay so it's wrong choosing let's go to letting grad 200 let him grad 200 that was a beautiful song in 1987 at the end of an 11 month tour Billy Joel did six shows in the Soviet Union he was the first major American artist to perform stadium shows there since this had happened what year well he performed in 1987 the event happened much earlier than that the Berlin Wall that is correct I was gonna say yeah that is correct the phrase if you just say what is the Berlin Wall right that's okay we know what you're talking about okay this is the amount of money that Billy Joel lost in his six concert tour of the Soviet Union lost money on the tour he has paid in rules yeah but it didn't matter to him no he was willing to spend the two and a half million dollars for Billy the two and a half million for Billy Joel that was such a life-changing experience it was worth losing two million two and a half million dollars okay six six little grad for six during one of his shows Billy Joel flipped over his electric piano and broke his mic stand during a bit of rage on stage because of this I don't know what was the film crew lighting the audience and causing them to stop responding to the Soviet Union with the lights were on the audience would they stop they'd be terrified right the lights were out they did and they joined in the songs and how fascinating yeah wow and if you see the video of the event he's singing a song of them in between lyrics he'll shout out the film crew just turn the lights off and he'll continue singing and then he'll shout out the film group then he gets mad and flips over and he keeps on singing then he takes this mic and he breaks it on the stage audience is going crazy and he's still singing the song right that's beautiful I love that man that's right yeah but it's the 800 Billy Joel's touring entourage to the Soviet Union had this many people in it including his wife and daughter so how many people don't know I can't even throw out a guess at eight hundred what is 130 130 people put on this stadium show and you know you took across the border to the well you have the band you have the sound crew you have the you have the the film crew you have all the tech people putting the stages together and that's down now that's a lot of people this is why it cost him to land a half million dollars right for six shows that's a good category all right then grab one thousand then Billy Joel's song then and grad was inspired by meeting this person if you don't know the name but you know the occupation I will accept it I don't know the song I don't know the occupation it was he was in the in the USSR yeah he met him he was a Russian citizen or a Soviet citizen I can't tell you what he did for a living who was a Russian clown named the clown resonance that's right yeah all right we're down to easy money and it's still rock and roll to me I think it's my category let's go like still rock and roll to me for 200 okay there we go let's come back early in village old's career Philadelphia radio station WMR began playing a live recording of this song which helped him sign a deal with Columbia Records well it was one of the Joel songs yeah early what if she's got away that isn't correct damn it I don't know it's one it was poorly recorded previously or it wasn't on and out it was a captain Jack captain Jack will get you hi tonight all right and take you to special island 400 400 it's still rock and roll to me Billy Joel never considered playing rock and roll as a career until he saw this band perform on the Ed Sullivan show that is correct and Sullivan and Sullivan that's how I guess you had I remember that it's pretty full 600 okay you kissed my hand at some point yeah you kissed me all over again oh his career Billy Joel released 13 studio albums of original material he also released two greatest hit albums as well as collections of live performances as of as of 2013 he was the third biggest selling artist of all times bigger than Bruce Springsteen Madonna and Michael Jackson to achieve this record he sold this many albums I will take a close number if it's not no I'm not guessing I'm not throwing one out what are more than 150 million albums wow yes 150 million million album yes imagine a few around with like digital downloads like a magic or a book well the thing about the cool thing about Billy Joel is despite his having three number one hits yeah and you know whatever the charts say in each of those albums there at least three great songs and and at least three most of them have a lot of great most of them have a variety of songs and a lot of a lot of albums that come out you've got one or two singles maybe you're lucky if you get two singles out of the album things from Italian restaurant was never played on the radio no kid well it was never released as a single because that's a long yeah but it's one of people's favorite songs yeah it's beautiful all right Jared it's already 13 Billy Joel songs on my phone and that's an impressive number considering how few of us I know yeah I know very few of us songs but I have 13 I love on my phone like just ones I know right the Billy Joel rabbit hole is well worth going down I assure you it's great stuff it's still running over 800 in 1994 Billy Joel began touring with this piano playing artists on what we're known as bass to bass tours who's in go ahead if he's not that is correct yeah that's cool yeah they're together oh I can't remember that now yeah yeah you're in positive territory wrong you're 300 now hey yum and i still kind of have a big number in 2009 they grossed 48 million dollars in just 24 shows you're talking to legends even in the early 80s they were like and they would play each other songs and see that's what I've heard can you mention a medley of those two together oh man I've always wanted to go to one of those concerts yeah I've heard people who have they said it's amazing yeah let's finish up okay still rock and roll to me for 1,000 big money big money no whammies okay this is the number of Billy Joel songs that reach billboards top ten list and top 100 list if you get one of them correct I will accept it yes yeah I can't guess on that I know it then after you okay he had 10 top 10 list okay 10 on the top 10 he had 42 on the top 100 high by now he had 36 I believe in the top 40 yeah that's what I'm curious about the top 40 because his top 40 score is still very high yeah all right we're down to easy money easy money to make sure choice by some 200 yeah 200 all the way down line right down the line after they were married Billy Joel asked his first wife Elizabeth Weber to do to be this what is his manager that is correct it makes it easier when your spouse or local manager to take care of you okay so with you 400 yeah let's go 400 in 1982 while doped up on painkillers of course Billy's first wife came to the to his hospital room with a contract for him to sign everything over to her after this happened this is what happened to Billy Joel to put him in the hospital on painkillers like a regular accident because that's pretty common for him that's is common for him is that your guess sure what was a motorcycle accident okay that's fair all right um going down she's going down I don't he divorced her right after that they were having their they were having marital problems anyway at one point you know he wrote the song um always a woman yeah she for her and and she as a gift her he wrote her that song he said do I get the publishing royalties right she sounded great like she wasn't kidding no he was married to her for nine years okay 800 no one of the six hundred six hundred okay in 1989 Billy Joel sued his sued this person for 90 million dollars who was his first wife's brother Frank who had been his manager he continued to be here and after money after he divorced his wife Frank had siphoned off 30 million dollars the other 60 million dollars were for punitive damages Frank declared bankruptcy and ended up paying Billy Joel two million dollars well he's Billy Joel got some other yeah but yeah 800 800 easy money all right easy money in me no one is no one is no one is 2009 this former Billy Joel drummer sued him and Sony music for 10 years worth of unpaid royalties who's Billy walls that isn't wrong who's walls Jimmy walls you think small don't take away my eight hundred dollars small than anything else small as small as the Dover for earlier small they didn't play together after Billy Joel stole his wife I don't know who is Liberty DeVito who played almost on most of his records yeah I know that's weird that's weird I know didn't actually help him write any songs and he what a pecker yeah whatever well I guess Liberty with needed money and he really don't one more question one more question money for $1,000 in 1992 Billy Joel sued this former lawyer for fraud breach of fiduciary responsibility malpractice and breach of contract can't even know who was Alan Grubman the case was Grubman Grubman the lawyer named Grubman right the case was eventually settled out of court for an undisclosed sum he had a scrubbed with fingers and goes money all over that all right so as we at the end of double jeopardy our score is Jared has $1,800 damn yeah I'm not going to give i'm gonna give Ron $800 outstanding so thank you Jared I'm giving Ron $100 all have 1000 you left $500 that's lovely thank you I get the home game I get a version of the home game a parting gift turn wax now we have final jeopardy okay so you oh there is final jeopardy you can you can bet anything up to the amount of money that you have okay but you have to decide what you're betting before you hear the question I'm betting 500 through Jared's generosity you're betting 500 of your 800 you're what I have 800 I gave you a hundred yeah oh that's right so now I'm 500 okay so I have to get this right and Jared has to get it wrong for me even or if we both give a little time right okay so do we have to write these down like this yeah you can write them out yeah okay so the final jeopardy question is what are my 10 favorite Billy Joel Tom's okay great that is an awesome answer yeah answer my your 10 favorite Billy Joel's right my 10 favorite Billy Joel's do I beat Jared if I can think of kind of names of his songs and Jared cannot I don't think that's okay you just have to come up with oh we should I should probably keep talking while you guys are writing your time because this is not the podcast this is great I know it's like so I've got all you guys are doing this I'll pull out these albums of Billy Joel's oh yeah actually look at this for some of you can't think of any songs it's missing a few albums that I had on cassette tape that I didn't pull out but these are the actual vinyl albums and it occurred to me that we were sitting there quite a while we can have the voucher or we can live there and so we're putting music underneath it or something but um so I got my my first Billy Joel album was the stranger I think I've got the stranger at 52nd Street at the same time and I was never since but 52nd Street honestly was a big hit at the time oh yeah oh my god that is delicious I 70-60 against a wall no it's great the thing is he was anti-molding a trumpet he looked anti-rock like he didn't look like rock and roll right so I know 50 seconds free so far zero but my life yeah I remember hearing my life on the radio not really Joel I we had a 45 minute I was a kid and I would listen to my life on this last house I know you made it right I'm maybe crazy I know but it just maybe a little bit to go I'm ready all right all right I've chosen and my view some of these are my favorite songs but it's a shot in the dark uh keeping the faith that's not on it but okay river of dreams that's not on it and the middle of the night I love that one she's always a woman that one okay she's always one on there no uh ballad of Billy the kid no piano man no what I did was gonna go for like I thought I was being very uh alentown no baby grand no moving out no it's still rock and roll uh no you may be right uh yes that's one of them that was good here's a thing I I was being so clever Jeff I thought I was being I'm with the ten categories okay I'm so smart I know some of these are no because Ron is a piano man she's always a woman I said yeah I said big shot big shot is one of them okay I said seems to me tell you restaurant I'm one of them pressure pressure is not okay New York State of mind that is one of them great Linda Grodd Linda Grodd is not one of them easy money angry young man no and it's so rock and roll to me uh no okay so I got okay I got one wrong got well I lose damn how did I lose these are my ten favorite Billy Joel songs all right seems from Italian restaurant this is in New York go on to him only the good die young oh I forgot about that I know I know I young Catholic girls wait much too late that the stranger when the stranger comes to town just the way you are yes I figured it was one of those down beat ones yeah New York State of Mind big shot Rosa Linda's eyes see some of these are all that's about his grandma I think Rose Linda's eyes it's not or it's about his mom it's about a waitress at least it's on there's our bad waitress I think his mom's name was Rose Linda you may be right I may be great modern woman modern woman that's from the baby grand that I mentioned that was what was the name of that I was the bridge it's all rich code of silence to my number one wasn't your top two yeah she's got away yeah I love that's one of my favorite Billy Joel songs so well now that we have we still have some time so we should just discuss our favorite song why they're our favorite songs what's like through these hours I love those three songs that are kind of similar in my mind she's got away always all that just the way you are I just want to say that Jared much is Gagrin won the yeah I'm Billy Joel a lot of them were actually like super Billy Joel you had to know these three is like you kind of extend right so that means Ron is one the the the ability to sing I lost a jeopardy which is good because you know let me see how's that there goes I was there to match my intellect on national TV against the plumber oh and an architect ah shit no so my life would be in my top 10 oh yeah um only the good day on moving out only the good day young maybe right we didn't start the fire might be my top 10 I remember hearing that one in eighth grade mr. Silver's class and like I didn't really know who Billy Joel was I knew some of the songs but that's not like this is not amazing musically yeah but lyrically and rhythmically it's incredible right it's amazing it's a cool song I would say it's a feat so is that the song that well I don't know you may not have ever been turned on the Billy Joel but was that the song always was that your intro music it was probably the last for the longest time but I don't know I guess maybe I got a man on my top 10 before for the longest time what yeah I've heard that by some of the other groups and I don't really love it right in a lot of other ways like I've heard it barbershop he I've heard it like corally I don't really like it dumb those ways but was River Dreams I think it would be an amazing barbershop song and I agree an innocent man that's one of those albums they just hit after hit after hit after hit great songs these throwbacks to the late 50s early 60s style magnificent album that only came out when I started on college in 1983 yeah it had like five singles released from it oh it was amazing it was amazing album yeah he's a little cleaner he's clicked up a little bit I have I'm looking at the stranger yeah I'm the stranger the first side the first side of the stranger is moving out which is awesome song the stranger which I don't have in my head but I know I like this song just the way you are which is a great song seems from an Italian which is an awesome song the next side Vienna which I also have my mind but it's Vienna waits for you oh god what a beautiful song only the good young she's always a woman get it right the first time which I know I've heard and I can't think of it and everybody has a dream which I don't know I know the most of this album so far I don't talk about that's this is a good one say goodbye oh say goodbye I'll say goodbye to all that I love that one New York State of Mind is on this one and those are the big two off of that turnstiles that I liked so what was your intro song to Billy Joel it was the innocent man it was either for the longest time it was probably tell her about it but off of that record yeah it was keeping the tape tell her about it an innocent man was a great song and then the first one I mentioned which I've forgotten now somewhere along the line yeah there's there's a number Billy Joel songs but I got his albums that I had actually heard that I didn't know it was him like James James da da da da da da I heard this song I didn't know where I heard this song but it was better than James Daniel is Daniel better than James you know who's better than all of them Gary Gary where he's like me so much to this true I do want to slap him well I have rage it's your thing yeah you know you're like Bruce Mary's state calm into it so apparently my game didn't take as much time as a as we usually yeah but I don't have anything else I think because I'm incompetent at keeping score or staying focused on track and mine also has little little Tom foolery's in between the realms I thought we actually thought we would actually end up talking about each of these answers a little more than we did but you guys there were so many there's all about gay man's always works on this podcast yeah yeah all right I'm so glad you did one that's a report this means that we don't rather than have to do another ultimate challenge for a long time plan was I have been on to the last time I was gonna do is I was gonna mention it today as well and then when I do my episode next week I was totally gonna swerve you guys and not do an ultimate challenge I wasn't afraid to come in today this was a lovely surprise I love it yeah that was great I've always wanted to play an ultimate challenge yeah just the throws some answers right he's right I'm trying to win all the every one of them Jared never picks up a mantle to do what I like to do I like you guys I like to do research I understand I think we've I think hopefully we present each other with a couple topics that are of interest I think we have you guys maybe we'll do a fix it up so I thought about before like I don't know what to do next but the global warming climate change is a good one I think essentially I'm talking about television yeah my my problem is that I can talk about energy and different I get some in mind but I want to do a podcast about and then I'll be fooling around Netflix and just come up on a documentary yeah and I go oh oh I should do one on this because it's awesome yeah and I'll lose interest in about two days and something else will grab my attention the one I'm doing for my next one which will be two weeks yes is one I've been wanting to do for months a year oh good it's something we talked about a lot so excited I'm I'm thrilled about that yeah I started out researching something totally different and that just wasn't coming together or coming together as I needed it to so that's well I think I think you were given the most topics that are like interesting to you I think so yeah a lot of things yeah we're easier to nail down as far as Jeff Weiss this Jeff you know you've been clear about your interests and all that and the things that you like doing one on yeah I have not I give you a lot of intake to things like hey how about a serial right right he's right right is where we're like very specific and yeah what were you to this adventure wall John John Hughes the wall I'm going to ignore completely but you know John I don't want to get into this with you again about why the wall would make a great stage production you you said you were going I challenged you to come back with a podcast about how the wall would could be turned into a stage musical I have to sit here with you right there okay we've got a couple minutes left yes we've got all this Billy Joel knowledge yeah how do you make a Billy Joel jukeboxy's because moving up is not what how would you use his song to tell story well first of all it's New York sense it's gonna be a young man of New York working class yeah would still be the working class thing but if all you love falling out of love right that kind of thing I think it would be a through the through line would be the many loves yeah of this working-class guys life but I think it's kind of balanced all these what's in time maybe is it like maybe that's interesting to think about I think I think the cool thing about Billy Joel is he was so urban but he was so blue collar he was a working class and and he even makes connections like Pennsylvania through all in town and a couple other songs in in which you see this working class hero as a romantic and that's what I love about Billy Joel you don't see that in everyday life I don't think you should hide the flaws of it no I think they should be right out there Billy Joel had moved to LA for three years and he hated it out there but he moved out of any first guy this Columbia what's happening and many reasons was written right there is exactly what I was written about those kinds of people that he really didn't like the people and it's also I wanted an inspiration was Mick Jagger's wife who was always on the non-conjecting yeah that's really well in this town girl be going to music town girl that's another one from an innocent man that that I hadn't mentioned that's six singles yeah that's that all that I would be him struggling with his trying to record it could be almost a buy-up really good because on music that's what I'd like to see Billy Joel biopic because he struggled with alcoholism depression accidents he got fucked so many ways in the horrible way by people that you trusted like his wife he lost somebody yeah yeah that people who were just there and that's true he was never big into drugs his drug his thing was alcohol he like alcohol yeah and I think in 2004 that's what that's what sent him to rehab and I think that was the last time he had been to rehab and maybe that's been about what he was I don't know the suicide attempts were like 72 okay so that could be like one of the things that's important yeah yeah the cool thing about Billy Joel is you can't go here's his 70s life and then everything after the 70s is waste right out well here's the thing about his is two-side attempts yeah he was saved on both occasions by John Small whose wife he had who's why that's on him having a fair with because he the first time when he took the the Nambenhall he called after taking this the Nambenhall he called John Small to apologize for having to bear with his wife and he revealed that he had taken this overdose and so John Small called to please her and then when he drank the furniture Paul is John Small's a person who found him and oh no shit wow he hates it's a joke Saint John his wife and then he was saved by him twice but on the other hand and John Small's wife didn't wasn't stealing his money he was stealing his money right old man so yeah crazy what is what off you let's know what 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