The Wild Cards Eye the Truth

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Ain't shit. Welcome to the Wild Card Podcast. I'm your host, Jared Eaton, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis. Hello.

I'm like stepping on Legos, but hey. It's true. It's absolutely true. I stepped on a Monopoly house the other day.

Those are firm. Oh, they are. At least Legos have like multiple, like, sort of just place the way, but I feel like that house would be so small. It's small and it's pointy and it's bad.

Anything else? It's little house shaped or did you flatten it? There's no way. Those things don't look like that.

I love playing Knopys again. I'm one of our great ones because I'm patient. And see, I'm not. Which is why a lot of times those pieces in the floor are not patient enough to finish a game of Monopoly.

But it is a long life effort. I also couldn't play risk because I'm a tank. I used to play risk with my brother for every day. I'm in a lot of mine because the board is intense.

I don't like online. There's an effort of signfog, which is like taking the board on some way. You've been in a Kramer. Yeah.

Yeah. That was going for a bit. I've always been in a video game. So board games, I like them, but they became tedious after a while.

There has been a serious resurgence. Resurgence. A board game. I've really taken them out of my heart and knocked to me.

I'm just amazed at all of them. I kind of want to play them all at the same time. I always have. I always like the ones that were 3D models, you'd have to sort of put them together.

Like Mouse Trap, which is an awful game. I've never played with the trap. I've never played with the set. I've played it once.

And I was like, this is stupid. Let's just keep setting off the other side. Some of these boxes are getting huge and they've got like individual pieces, like 92 pieces inside of them. Yeah, that's insanity.

Plastic and so many people have gotten into painting figurineses, but I usually do a lot of my stuff, other paints and so on, and I can't think of that. If you've been joining us on this journey to wherever. Which if you haven't, shame on you. Shame on you.

And if you haven't, then you're not hearing us. So that's fair and doxy. Hopefully they will. But of course, in these 15 episodes, you've learned a bit about us.

You probably don't like us a bit more. Now, probably not. It's a pretty good chance that we offended all people. Which is why you're still those people.

I was kicked in the balls twice by someone who had never heard the show, but then punched by someone who had heard the show. That's fair. And the kick in the balls was not answered. I'm not talking about that.

Well, I don't know. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about? At least chicken would better than get that.

At least chicken would be better than getting it. That is a commercial. Getting kicked in the nuts by Lee's chicken would be the worst for me. It would be delicious.

You know, like salty, like salty peanuts. Like salty peanuts. Like salty peanuts. Like salty peanuts.

It's a little bit about us. And we continue to share of ourselves in these little bits at the beginning of the reference which we share a favorite. Whether you want us to or not. We're doing it.

It's what we do. So in this week, I promised this episode was not influenced by the last episode about how much I love psych. This is not completely done. I already prepared this.

So I want to know your favorite TV shows that no one watched but you. Psych. Oh wait, two other people in this room also watch that. Obviously other people watch these shows.

But you're like, guys, this is great. You're like, eh, eh. Referencing the last episode when I was a kid watching moonlighting. I felt like I was the only kid in middle school who was watching moonlighting.

It was a little more adult. I watched Frazier. That's a funny show but it's a little sophisticated for young person. Third rock from the Sun was another one.

And then my friends watched that show. They watched sitcoms when they were like I did. So I watched when I was a kid. Hell, I watched last week when sitcoms.

I still love sitcoms. Those are two ones from my youth that I watched. Another one I really enjoyed was called animal face off. It was on animal planets.

And this would have been like middle school junior high. And essentially what they would do is they would show it with you like hippopotamus versus great white shark. Like what would happen if these fought. And what they would do is they would analyze the fact that they would be like, what would they analyze the physical forces these animals could generate.

I heard this. I heard this. What's the hippo's bite force based upon its musculature? How does the great rock shark approach?

What is its speed? And then they would bring experts from both sides. They would build robotics to test these things. And then at the end of the episode they would be animated.

Not like cartoony but like CGI. Like a fight. It would be like a four by five. And the great white shark won't.

Nope. No. I don't think they're fighting. Well, they're fighting.

It's not about one trying to get away from the other. It's about the hippo gets one bite. Well, that's the one that would take because they're biting. They can bite.

They can bite. They can bite. Lions in half. Well, there's nothing but humans that take on hippos.

And Michael Crichton's Congo he discusses how hippopotamists they kill people. They clean everything but they murder people in Africa regularly. Yeah. It's one of like leopard versus gorilla.

And I will never forget the end of that episode because I'm like, I look gorillas. Gorillas. Gorillas. Gorillas.

And I'm like this leopard got something like teeth and claws and things. And you see the leopard just like leaping claws out. No. Teeth going for the gorillas and the gorillas does an overhand pun.

Yes. It's spine from the bottom. Wow. Just like a down snap.

And the leopard just goes that lip. If you've ever seen footage of a gorilla in battle, you would think nothing will be a gorilla because those things, they think they're really smart. Gorillas is very would be a good one. I think the gorilla would still have it.

I think the claws would be a fun one. I used to love it and I could discuss it with no one. You see this episode? Shut up.

When I was young, I watched Herman's head quite a bit with, yeah, nobody knows that one. But it was a guy who had six voices, six people that embodied certain emotions inside his head. It was written by the same author who was just this classy. No.

And there were a lot of actors in it that I don't know their names. But you see them in later movies and go, oh, that's the guy from such and such. But I had William, I want to say Sanderson, who was also a Fright Knight. He's like a main kid in Fright Knight, went on to do this show.

And it was one of Fox's early shows. So at Fox back in the 90s, you got like three episodes to succeed and then they would cut you. But the show critically failed. Critics hated it.

I was the one person in America that liked it. I've had a couple shows like that where there's a pilot episode maybe almost a season and they pull it. I'm like, but I was, so that's one called the Forgotten. They came out on CBS and this would have been my house in college.

So almost 10 years ago now. And you discover or there'd be a cold case that was someone who, and these group guys, they were cops. They would come together and try to give this person a name and a voice. And you find out what had happened to them.

And of course the episode, they would start with the person who was forgotten and they would know their own name. And it would be like, and it would set the scenario of where their body was found and if you get the cold case about the end, it would be like, my name is this. And I would get goosebumps. It was really good ones.

But it was a guy who's been appeared in several of these. Christian Slater was like the main guy on it. He was the main guy on it. And it was really good.

There was some other, I don't know, other ones. And he did another, this was only three or four years ago, the last season. It was him and he was on. And it was kind of like a profiling, psychological mind tricks thing where it was like leverage but not as funny.

Really good. Steve's on was this very, very neurotic. Such a good actor. Like not even a highly functioning, moderately functioning.

But really, really intelligent, but just no social skills. But a really cool dynamic between those two. Because Steve's on was the brother who relied on Christian Slater because he was using his brother to make money and to try to, you know, but he did love him. So that was a good one again in the last season.

Alex, he was in Lexington. His wife runs a theater up there. So he maintains residence in Lexington. Jeff, why about you?

I forgotten all the shows. I used to watch that. No one would watch. Right.

I mean, there were obviously many because I remember many shows getting hooked on and then going away at Christmas time and never coming back. Mr. Sunshine with Matthew Perry was another one. My daughter and I loved it.

Nobody watched it. Allison Janney was in that, who was also in the West Wing and she was in everything. But she was hilarious. And it was a funny show.

Again, pretty same with Matthew Perry. Matthew Perry was in a show, it was another show. It was a serious show but it was based on Saturday Night Live. I remember that happened.

That was a cool show. And it lasted a season. And it was really good. Mr.

Sunshine was about a guy who ran an arena, like a sports arena or hockey arena or something. I think Chris Rock was in this one as well as the younger brother of, anyway, there's a number of people that I knew it. And it was a really good show and one season was all it got. I had never heard of that.

I wish I could. Since at Boulevard is what I think it was called. That was a remake of the old show. The old show.

Oh no. Something's on the strip. Something's on the strip. There was a number to it.

Sunset strip. Yeah, I know. There was some way to try to remember this. If only information went up the tip bar fingertips in modern times, when I was very young, it seems like eight or nine, there was a show called Cliffhanger.

Do you remember this? It was Studio 60 on the Sunset. Studio 60 on the Sunset. Yes.

That's what it was. I got interviews on MTV and stuff. Cliffhanger was three different stories within the time slots and each one of them at the end of the episode would leave in a cliffhanger. And the last one was about a vampire.

Really? And it was like they wanted to give you multi genres. But, and I read up on this recently, it was the budget became such that it was untenable to do the show because doing three different storylines, the production value became too expensive. That makes sense.

It was also a show called We're Wolf. They came out in the 1980s. It was the best show ever in the world. I can't imagine you watching the video.

It was another Fox show. When Fox was in its infancy, you know, in the late 80s, early 90s, it was another one of those. They gave it maybe half a season and then bap. It was gone.

There's a lot of things like that make it pass that are, there's nothing to speak about. No. There was one show that I was really into, this was before I moved here. I forget what, I don't remember whether Madeline was born yet or not.

It was about these police, they were like hostage negotiators. Flashpoint? I don't remember the name. It got one season but it's basically, it had a long time to shoot me.

I don't know if I'm going to shoot me. No, it had a, I can't think of the name. He was in, not for him, he was in, I can't think of anything. It was a show one time I liked.

After the lobotomy, I can't remember anything. I swear. I try real hard but there's a blank spot. It must be where my frontal lobe was at the time.

I don't know, it's a good thing we have a row of encyclopedias here that we can get any. Flashpoint is the first thing I can think of because I've heard of that one. That was like 2008's-ish. What you listeners don't know is that Jeff is now in the other side of the room.

Jeff is in his phone, so now it's up to me to entertain you. I'm going to sing a little song about Jeff. Oh, Jeff was. This is me coming, walking back from the opposite side of the room.

This is what I'm talking about. You've been banded brothers, it was one of the- They're going to call on Tony's. In Rico, going to tell me the guy I'm talking about. I remember the character from Just Shoot Me, but I don't.

I watched Just Shoot Me a very little bit. But I love George Segal. George Segal on the Goldbergs right now is absolutely hilarious. Anyway, it was the guy who was one of the- it was a guy in this woman.

I can't remember even one of the names. I've seen him in other things and I'm terrible with names. But he was also in that movie, Office Space. He was the guy who put his job or didn't quit a job, but just stopped going.

Oh, did he create the floor mat later? No, he just stopped going. He just stopped going and then he decided to- He and a couple of buddies decided to rip the company off by taking a fraction of a penny. I always get him and Jeremy Piven mixed up, but it's Ron something.

Ron's a different guy. Ron Swanson is probably it. Yeah, I think that's the truth. There's a ransom TV series, standoff TV series.

There was a Monopoly TV series, there was a clue. Did you guys ever play the Mad Magazine board game? No. It was awesome.

I doubt it. It was so good. I don't doubt Mad Magazine, it's the best. Yeah, that's the guy.

Stand off the TV series. Stand off the Fox. Imagine Fox canceling a show that you really loved. Parker Lewis can't lose should still be on the air.

I swear it should. We sure went through a lot of effort to get to that talented series. We'll only get to nothing. This was a mass Masturbatory practice, and I shan't be a part of it any longer.

Yeah, I'll do it. He's talking about sex, I'm not talking about sex. Speaking of all that's- That's a basic lesson. He has more on paper now, I'm looking at it's mostly gibberish.

There's some wingppings in there? Id Times. I've never seen you do for an episode. Yeah, you guys have never seen me actually put effort into an episode.

That's not a challenge. That's not a challenge. You all have been working hard. Very hard.

Nobody cared. We don't care except Ninja. Right. The listeners are a lot more than me.

In fact, you guys were the only listeners. So you mattered. Anyway. All right.

You have a question for us. I don't. Let me see. I'd like to see if we know what the topic is going to do.

I like to hit the ground running. Okay. I'll hit the ground. No, I'm not going.

I was going to see you run. I can actually run. You guys wouldn't believe it if I did. I would.

It would crack the earth. But so we mentioned the Hills have eyes in guest a few weeks ago. Look, I do have a question. Are you aware of where the story from the Hills have eyes began?

What it was inspired by. The events that inspired it. This is one of my favorite little legends right here. And I don't want to just talk about the legend.

I want to talk about how it correlates with the Hills have eyes. Okay. Because that is one of my favorite. I've not seen the original.

I've always seen the remake. The remake is such filth garbage. It's so televine was in. It's he's great.

The cast wasn't the problem. Here's my problem between the remake of the Hills have eyes and the original. In the original, there was no nuclear testing. There were nuclear testing.

It didn't much matter. They were on a bomb range just the same. But it was a bunch of white trash kind of hillbillies in the desert who would assault people on the road to survive. They were cannibals and they would do that.

In the remake, it was more of these mutants. And you'd go, oh, those poor mutants were, they were experimented on. Or they lived on a bomb range in that little fake city, not fake city, but that little town they lived in. And to me, they weren't scary.

It was just another rubber suit monster movie. And I didn't care if I were to find it more scary to have humans chasing you and wanting to eat you. That monster is werewolves. Let's get started on werewolves.

They're my favorite of all the creatures. My favorite too, because there are no way into this movie. I think a werewolf would eat Jared's head. If it was dry, I mean, if it did, if it was dry, I would concede.

I feel like you feel dull. You feel like you feel like it would swallow you whole and then you would have a fight with the inside of the werewolf. I feel like you would done that bait. I would, if you know it out of the way, I got a judo hit.

You would judo it out of the way. Would judo hit us? You know it's great. I don't know.

I don't know. Judo strikes. I'm not going to sit in front of you. Or sit in front of you.

Judo did the damage yourself against the werewolf. I said was out of Judo strikes. You know they hit the werewolf. You know they hit the werewolf.

Yeah. That was a small kid. You had to wear lebrage based boots. I had to use their own momentum against me.

Yeah, we cannot set a werewolf on fire. I mean I could you could I couldn't because I would be running I'd be like you will go to where will I don't know that I would run though because what difference does it make once it's He's coming back to it. You're back to it. Your chances are gone.

If you're saying my grip is it possible to win? Absolutely Absolutely or could kill me. I mean you're using the words possible and could Yeah, I did I will say right now with a hundred percent certainty that the werewolf will eat you It will it may not eat you whole yeah It will eat part of you and then stab you to death with its claws with the rest it just rip you to shreds That's what they do Anyway, I've seen it you've seen where I people don't know this about me. Okay.

I'm the Diane Fosse of werewolves I live with them for several months telling you they didn't kill you they didn't kill me because I dressed as one I ate human flesh I hunted with them. I behave as well. You know what you eating wrong I never ate brains because I heard that they would create math cow disease it is like you laid your fascination with cannibalism That's true. I explain why you're chewing on my own Oh So the hills have eyes was inspired by a Scottish legend of saunty bean Sawny bean that doesn't sound scary at all Okay, let me tell you this much according to the new gate calendar as I read That's you do Alexander below women's day Alexander Bean was born in East low is Mr.

Bean right play by During this this occurred during the 1500s. Oh, yeah, it was great. It was good time I enjoyed everybody was peaceful nobody cannibalized each other until this incident his father was a ditch digger and hedge trimmer The respectful job and sunny beam tried to take up the family trade I think what I want to be is I want sunny bean I want it be yeah, but the family trade quick I Don't taste for honest. I can't I can't I can do it.

I'm good for about two seconds. Got it. Thank you So sunny bean after he realized he was too lazy to actually work for any sort of living met a Vicious woman who shared his same inclinations. These were two lazy vicious people with zero moral compass whatsoever They ended up living in a coastal cave and and you remember when you did the dialogue pass Yeah Words that I may not get That's what I'm thinking whatever I say But they end they ended up after they got together they ended up in a coastal cave in Banana head Between And Boland's right Okay, so these guys these two vicious awful people they lived in this cave undiscovered by anybody for 25 years Wow, the cave was 200 yards deep and during high tide the entrance was blocked by water That's why they were able to get away with what they were doing which I'll get to that in a moment Oh, so the water and the cave it just isolated it just isolated them so like Anytime they will gills okay, well they were they were obviously superior to those others Uh this couple eventually produced eight sons six daughters 18 grand sons and 14 grand daughters How do you think those grandchildren that cave who what bloodline do you think all of these children came from wow It's on the beginning the same two people now it was all all of it was In-sest it was all incestuous relationships So all of them wagging the inclination for regular labor the clam thrived by laying careful ambushes at night to rob and murder individuals or groups Small groups of people I wonder if the murder was malicious or if it was just like to protect your secrets And that's another well, that's another thing this is why the original hills have eyes appeals to me so much and I am going to draw You know similar I that's all it is.

I'm reading it like I'm reading it but I'm going to draw But uh from the hills of eyes you also wonder are they naturally vicious people or are they out in the desert with no way to survive? How do they feed your family? How do you anything else? How is they they are vicious?

They're awful people and the sunny beam nobody can say for fact they were vicious people or they were just doing well They chose to live in the cave. Oh, that's the thing. They'll be people. They survived So they didn't want to get day jobs.

So the way they survived was by eating people But um, yeah, the bodies of the people they assaulted and robbed were brought back to the cave where they were dismembered and eaten by the family That's how they did they address them and keep their clothes and they're closed. I don't know The article doesn't say that uh mind you this is in no way based on fact This is a Scottish legend that has been at times presented as fact and then other people have said Have you ever seen a series in which they try to track down the truth and something like this? I have not and I would be interested to see that but sorry being is largely uh Underrepresented at underrepresented as a legend. That sounds like a good deal.

It is well the hills of eyes. That's not I don't know what the hills of eyes are trading a movie the leftovers from the humans they didn't eat were pickled And discarded body parts would sometimes wash up on nearby beaches in the area. So they how did they How did they pickle how to have a brine would be how did they get this stuff for the brine? It would be what is it vinegar and salt?

Yeah, but any passing merchant could possibly have vinegar and salt and the things that they needed to I don't think it would be Well, they were they were just full. They were like, oh, I could need another bite. What do we do with the rest of the body? Yeah, let's pickle Oh my god, there was uh Yes, eight sons six daughters 18 grandsons and 14 granddaughters will defeat all those people You'd need more than one body at a time.

Well, they would attack they would attack several bodies I guess back then in the 1500s people would be the only way to really really preserve the the meat without rotting one They lose any other family? No No, not not until not until well, I'll get to that the end of the whole the whole thing But mind you people have looked in the in the local newspapers and stuff like that Where they kept records and there's no record of people disappearing on this little roadside and the theories are they have a lot of people Well, they say the legend goes that there were roughly about a thousand people that were assaulted and murdered on this little stretch of road And we'll get more on that You would think once you hear people are disappearing and dying on it, but um, the thing is I know the ending this one actually is of course line. It's really One singular sensation great twist. It's an Oliver twist So the body parts and and disappearances did not go unnoticed by the local villagers But the beans stayed in the caves by day and took their victims at night So they were you know kind of bam purict in that way The clam was so secretive that the villagers were completely unaware that these people doing these crimes lived anywhere near there There was no sign that any human being lived in that area and you figure at first you would think oh, there's a bear Or something like that in the area that's that's killing people On the scene that you come upon what you see would be Well, you know they didn't leave any bodies, so you would have these mysterious Yeah, a bear would eat right there wouldn't well bear may drag it off though.

They do take some Possibly I mean Well, uh, the local villagers they they started noticing the disappearances and organized searches were launched to find these people who were doing this Uh, one search took note of the cave, but the the people doing the search They refused to believe that any human being could live in that cave Have they got all the way in or just the no no they just saw it Because the tide and all that they think well nothing's gonna live nothing could survive in this cave because when the tide is high You know it must flood which was obviously not the case. I don't know the scientific well the cave must have gone Up and then gone back down The living area Uh, but uh they started doing searches for it They were very frustrated and so the townspeople not able to find the people assaulting the people on the road actually lynched Several people in the town that they suspected of it. Yeah, they blamed it on so they would kill this guy and the murders They killed the next guy and the murders wouldn't stop the crucible Exactly it was a witch hunt they couldn't find out who was doing these crimes but they kept pointing their fingers at these innocent people that they would keep on lynching And uh suspicion often fell on in keepers the local in keepers because they were the last person to have seen these people alive Yeah, so it's it's really a messed up kind of story everybody getting blamed except the people who were the 25 or 30 people They were actually committing these crimes one particular night and you knew this had to have happened eventually the bean clan Ambushed a married couple riding from a fair on one horse, but the guy was a skilled combatant He was finally, you know, as soldiers and was Jared. He came upon Jerry.

He's a great great great great grandfist in Scotland, right? So the woman the woman was mauled the man's wife was mauled and murdered during this assault The man held off the entire clan with a sword and a pistol as a soldier back then would be very you know very adept with these things I imagine you would only have to shoot one or two of these people never run off I guess I would have only had one shot in the 1500s. That's really all would take to scare the rest of maul I think you look at a lot of thieves. They look for easy targets.

They're not trying to fight They want to trick you trap you right and get overwhelmed where you have no one is coming and they get one easy blow when you're done What's that whole theory of I can't shoot all of you, but I can shoot one of you Which one is it gonna be and that's that was the attitude of the time and of course the song he means No, if he's a skilled swordsman, he would don't take quite a few Yeah, I mean they were I'm sure they were just with rocks or logs and yeah stuff like that I mean, you know, but he's pretty resilient, but yeah, there are a lot of ways to I know there are a lot of ways to take it down So but but before the clan was right off, you'd be the guy who would you? I know I've seen a lot of others. I know I've seen it happen again. I've seen it happen again.

I don't know why I said it again Uh before they could kill the husband people from the fair were traveling on that And as soon as more people showed up the clan ran off And uh with the uh with their existence finally revealed, you know, they finally figured out There's a clan of people doing this uh king James the sixth of Scotland who later the king king James What is my favorite king james? He's the sixth one. I think you've always talked about it He said he's a good well his hair You said he has a lovely kind of hair Yeah, much like a werewolf fur actually It's glorious So he heard of these these atrocities he sent out a team of 400 men with bloodhounds Which doesn't sound like a lot, but that's a lot of guys To chase down 30 Some record of the of the king of Scotland sitting at 400 men to find And that's the whole thing this Part of this legend is more than likely based on some kind of truth Something that happens But as many legends go it builds over the years and becomes more gruesome Such moral traditions that kind of pass these things on That's exactly that word of mouth for several years In fact, I think the first modern written case of it was in the 1700s So several hundred years had already passed before anybody wrote down this story And of course back then they didn't look through uh You know, they didn't have the periodicals available to them like we do now So I'm going to say in things like Wednesday or Cosmo Magazine No knowledge of treasures Yeah, those treasures of the county And uh soon soon they found the cave that these people were hiding in in banana head Which is now my favorite cave Was there like that's because they were wondering like is that? You got something in there?

This is weird This is weird I don't want to be assaulted by Donkey Kong That's what might happen right now It's going out That's right So they found the cave and they went into it this time And as soon as they got down the cave there Oh, I'm in charge. I'm sorry. I'm totally grand with it. So the cave was scattered with human remains.

Is it the one that has the magic lamp and the great ruby? It had those things and the cave closed on its own if you didn't write your part about it. Yeah. So there was much proof within this cave that these people were.

Yeah, I like the picture it is the house in text chainsaw masker, which when you break into it, there's bones all over the floor and like furniture is made of skin and bones and a lamp made out of arm. I was really happy that you like to imagine that. It ain't my fault. Especially your work working away and then you leave back in your chair and you're like, oh, that's it was the way I was raised.

It's not like actually I don't know why the people were there. They're never like freaked out as far as he's gonna be the one to shoot everybody because I'm passive. But I was listening to the Omen soundtrack. I do that on YouTube.

I listen to the Omen soundtrack, the fog soundtrack, the thing soundtrack is beautiful music. It's great music. And so I listen to it and they're like, he's weird. He's listening to the whole psycho soundtrack.

I'm like, it's beautiful music. I get similar responses, but I'm usually listening to show tunes. Which I do also. I'm listening to it.

So anyway, the whole plan was captured alive somehow and taken in chains to Tobuff jail. Tobuff jail. In Edinburgh. Everyone has to pay the shit to get inside.

Well, it's the fandom of the Tobuff. And then they were transferred to the mother of the Tobuff. Whoo, I'm gassy. That's so great.

Transferred to Leif or Glasgow. Glasgow. I think they call it Glasgow. You're thinking of Glasgow.

Glasgow, which I have a Menezheria. Is that, did I pronounce that right? Glasgow's? I'm an Acheeree.

I have a number of 12. I have a number of 12. I have a number of 12. Glasgow's at home.

I'm glad that you and your glass cows are enjoying your own. I'm dating. I'm loving it. I love Argyst threads.

Three is a magic number. It really is. Yes, it is a magic number. So they had zero trial when they got to the toll booth.

I think it was probably not that it is. I think much like Sonny Quirley owned when they got to the toll booth, there was no trial. Sonny Quirley owns Sonny Bean, Sonny Bono. I've all of them.

They're exactly like. So the men were punished by having their genitalia cut off first, as was the punishment back then. Their hands and feet were severed. And I like the way they were this.

They say they were allowed to bleed to death. They were allowed to bleed out. The same donation. The women and children after watching the men die were burned alive.

Now the article makes a point here that back then, if you were a traitor to the crown, you would be hung, drawn in quarter. If you were a man, you were drawn in quarter. I'm wondering for those of you that know, being pulled into four pieces. You were tied with heavy strong rope.

They would run in opposite directions and you would be pulled into four pieces. That's horrifying. The movie The Hitcher actually has a girl, the main girl in that. I can't remember whether she lived through it or not.

But the, uh, her, how her, that guy had tied her to semi-trucks. And she was in the middle and he would ease the trucks. I can't remember how he did. He had like the mechanical system of acceleration and all that very slow.

And she would be pulled very slowly. And I can't remember whether she survived that movie or not. It's been a while. The women, meanwhile, were burned down.

That was the punishment for women back in the day. Men had various different brutal forms of punishment. They were violent, whereas the women were children. They were mildly burned until they were dead.

Which is not brutal. So the town of Gerebon, located near the Macabre scene of murder and debauchery, has another legend about the Campbell clan. It said that one of Bean's daughters eventually left the clan and settled in Gerebon where she planted a Dule tree, not a Dule hill. It says a Dule hill.

Dule hill. Dule tree. Dule. Dule tree.

I can't do it. I quit. I'm horrible. But it came known as the hairy tree.

After her family was captured, the people of Gerebon found out who she was. And she was hung from the bow of the tree that she had planted. It's not like I've always said if I'm hung, I want to be hung from a hairy tree. I don't know if it's not the only request.

If I have to be hung, I want to be well hung. So there's more to the story. There's more to the story. There's no more than the story.

That obviously is the end of the story. There's some other information here. However, I wanted to draw parallels between this and the Hill's Head eyes, which inspired it. I found it particularly interesting that in the film, The Hill's Head eyes, you have the father who is named Jupiter.

And then he has, oh wait, yeah, yeah, Bob Jupiter. And then there's Mercury, Mars, and Pluto are his three sons. One of them is Michael Wiggler. Not even a planet.

I'm going to fight for the rights of Pluto. It should not plant it. It absolutely should be planted. You mean the little satellites?

No, I mean the moon is smaller than the moon. So it's just a little asteroid up there. Well, I mean, it's we call it a dwarf planet. Because it's size.

Because of its size. It doesn't deserve the respect that a normal size planet. I can't get behind this. I'm being sizes right now.

You are a size that some of you fairly fairly offended right now. However, there is a character in the Hill's Head eyes. The one she's not a juvenile, she's maybe 20 in her early 20s somewhere in there. Her name is Ruby.

And during the course of the film, Ruby not a planet. Oh, Jeff, I know what it feels like to be you and I hate it. Anyway, so you never know. You never know which one of my personalities will pop out at any time.

So there's a woman in the movie who is a child of this freak, you know, trash couple that has raised this Campbell family out in the wilderness in the desert. But during the film, you know that she can tell that what they're doing is wrong. And so she becomes that one character that turns on her family and helps the suburban. I should start with the story of the Hill's Head eyes.

Okay, why start now? But it's really it's about a family of a retired Cleveland police officer and his wife. I hate the town of Cleveland. Let me just say that.

The Cleveland tourism times and Cleveland day I've never once had a good meal in Cleveland and I've eaten their many times. I think it plays like you're a douchebag. And then you drive through Cleveland and you go huh? How did they make it?

Yeah, it's awful. I've never been there. So I love that. But there are people that I really like in Cleveland.

They get mad at me when I when I sit on Cleveland, but it doesn't do that. That's the thing. That's the thing. Isn't that where the Royal Museum is?

It is. That's the good thing about it in the Christmas story house was the Christmas story house was in Cleveland as well. It's now at Christmas story museum. But so anyway, it's those two and they have for their anniversary been given the deed to a silver mine.

So it does one does one does one does one gives you the deed to a silver mine. It was 76. They weren't as you know snarky as we are about gifts like that. But anyway, so don't don't get me wrong.

So I wasn't giving the deed to a silver mine. I'll be happy to take your deed. So they're I'll keep on silver mines. They're rough.

And the spiders can be a big deal. You got to chase those spiders out. But they're jogging that the silver right. Well, look at the deed to a silver mine unless you have some way of extracting silver from this mine.

Don't don't want to be afraid of the labor. Don't be afraid of the work. Or we'll slave. But they can only work with the women's folder.

The rest of time, they're just human beings. No, I do. That way I say, listen, I won't make it work. I'm gonna find you away.

I will keep you away from the silver. You forgot our previous podcast where we hate people who hold other people as slaves. But werewolves are different. Are they not people?

Not to me. They're people to me. Do they have rights? They do have rights.

They do have rights. But see, they all give food. I take care of them. I don't draw and quarter them.

It's a work program. It's a work program. We'll do to deserve a work release program. I mean, they didn't do anything.

Is wrong. They were doing what animals do. That's like why should a bull be stabbed after bullfight. It's just doing what bulls do.

I agree with you on that. I mean, they didn't choose to be a werewolf. They didn't choose to be a werewolf. They didn't choose to be a werewolf.

They were attacked by a werewolf. The bull is taken away from his family, put in this place and humans are in peril because they chose to go there. Where the world because where will we have to protect people from it? You know what?

Don't know where the werewolves go. They go where they like them. They choose to be bitten by another werewolf. If it's not trying to stop meeting people, I'm gonna protect humans.

But they don't want to be a middle slave. They can throw it when they're werewolves. I'm okay with you're chaining them up in the silver mine to protect themselves. But making them work as slaves.

Well, you know, I can kill them and say it. Would you forgive them to kill them instead of them? It might be best. It might be best.

I know. Hold on. Nobody has questioned the logic of a werewolf working in a silver mine. Let me stop you right there.

We have any question in the logic of werewolves. I think we've questioned it too much. Now they have to mind the silver for their own silver bullets to kill them. Yeah, that's the thing.

That's perverse and sick. That's more gross than cannibalism. They can wear wolf work in a silver mine. They can wear gloves.

They can wear gloves. I'm only doing what I'm doing. They're doing it guys. But they only work when they're not wearable.

I told you when they're werewolves. I don't make them go into the home. So what do you do with them when they are. And you have a vector what?

Jerry have a lemonade on the porch. So it's a bit of wear. I was just sitting there. It's just so crazy.

It's hot in the side. I'm so glad to be a werewolf during these modern times. Jared's my friend had to work in the silver mines and it was a pivos thing that he made me do. So anyway, this guy, this is Scott from Cleveland Retired Police Officer is traveling with his teenage son Bobby, his teenage daughter, we're not going back.

That wasn't the first time. I can't tell you what to do. I didn't sleep. Bobby, come on over for Dan.

Okay. So we've been with his with them and then D wall of stone who we all know love. No, she's the older daughter and it's her and her husband and their infant child because anytime you introduce an infant child to a horror film, it's yeah, you're on the side of the people with the baby. So they go to the obligatory gas station where an old man says, Oh, don't go running around them silver mines.

You don't want to go back there. There ain't nothing back there. It's an air force bombing range. I just feel like Vaughn was made to play that.

I really that's before I die. I want to play that guy once. I'm like, you don't want to go out there to be a once them girls don't want that. Watch your back.

It's an obligatory character. Anytime you do the the sub genre that I call, don't go where you shouldn't be going. Textchings on Mascre is one of those just before dawn is another one. Well, not Halloween because I was there to where they live or not living dead with his own.

They're going to where you live. Whereas in these other movies, you're going where you should Friday 13th. You shouldn't go to Camp Blood because there's crazy Ralph who warns them. Don't go.

Don't go to Camp Blood. It's a death. Yes. And so because they're in Maine.

And so anyway, we talk about the Tuesday 11th episode of Cyclist. Oh, we didn't. Oh, that was so good. We're going to go out to the camp.

And it's all that was so much fun. But anyway, we have Tiki Hama. Was that what it was? I can't remember the details.

But I remember it was such a cool episode. I still love the fact that you know the titles of the episode. It's not amazing. But anyway, so it's all of them.

And then the guys, you don't want to go out there and obviously they ignore him because they're the elderly. Because we should. There's a they're looking on the map and they go, well, there's a shortcut from here to California. So the obligatory shortcut as well.

And of course, while we're out there. Now, was this at this time, was it was a trope then or when it was established? I think it's one of those that established the trope at the time. It's going to take too much fun out of it for having these.

You really can't because they created it. You know, Texas Chainsal Massacre came out a few years before that actually by about two years. And they also had the guy who said, you don't want to go out there. Those girls don't want to go out to the house where the guy in the chainsaw temples live.

The same thing with this. And they were creating that stereotype that you so I'm sorry that you see in so many films. And so they decided to take this little shortcut and there's there's a fighter fighter jets going over there. Cause it's a bomb range.

And they're dropping bombs in close enough that you hear them and people are freaking out and the family's yelling at each other for this and that. And they run into a little pile of bushes like you would have out there. The pile of boulders and bushes and all that. And it breaks the axle.

And they fortunately they have a camper in the back. They're driving a station wagon. And so they decided they're going to set up camp there. But well, they have to set up camp there.

In the meantime, all of these people up in the hills, this psycho family, this only bean family is watching all of this happen. And so the dad decides he's going to hike back to the gas station by himself. And when he gets there, the old man is about to hang himself. And he's like, why are you trying to hang himself?

Turns out that this guy was the father of the father of the family. And when he had a daughter, and then he had this what he described as like a mutant child that came out here is a monkey and big toward his wife in half in labor. And then they knew that something was off with the guy. And then when he was about 12, he burned his sister alive in a fire.

He was born psychotic, this pop a Jupiter character. And so the dad smashed him in the face with the tire entrant to kill him, didn't kill him. And the kid was abandoned into the into the hills where he survived by cannibalizing and then met this woman like in the Sony Bean Story, who was like minded. And they had this little tribe of mutant people, not mutants, like, you know, just the trashy, crazy family living out in the wilderness.

And so they they kill the old man, they tied the father, the old cop to a cactus, and they set him on fire. And while all this is going on while the entire family is like, Oh my God, they're burning my father alive. The other two of the other kids in the in the mutant family end up assaulting and killing the mother of the family. Yeah, they assault the camper, they steal the baby.

And then they run off back there. So the rest of the film is about them trying to get the baby back them trying to survive. But what I love about the hills of eyes is you have this this family up there who is obviously this crazy odd weird family of cannibals. And you have this suburban family who's just normal from Cleveland.