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What is this week's episode brought to you by? Hmm... We've done the secret message thing to death. Secret message thing to death.
What are you doing? Nothing. Just making notes. We haven't done universal studios yet.
We could do that. Universal studios. Why are you writing this down? I'm just being productive.
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Anyway, why don't we do a commercial about how we're now hosted on Buzzsprout with new episodes being uploaded there and the archives being uploaded along the way? Yeah, and how we're also available on Apple Podcast and iTunes, and soon we'll be available on other apps like SoundCloud. Buzzsprout uploaded. iTunes, Apple, possibly other apps.
Okay, seriously, you write literally nothing down ever. Okay, I am done. No more notes. No more lighting.
What did you just hand to Jeff? It was nothing! Capitalist Bourgeois peak! You'll never catch me live!
What was that all about? Um, nothing? There's a note. Oh my God!
What the? What? Are you stuffing Ron's notes in your pants? Maybe.
Guys, guys you know we have a show to do, right? Well shit. Look, a wild card podcast. I'm your host, Jeridine, and my co-pilots on this journey to wherever are my good friends, Jeff Curtis.
Hello! And Ron Bloor. Sami Absordi, Preda Telski, Meccanki, Chilovek Kletori Koldelibo, Sushta de Wale. I use Google translation to the melodons.
What did you say? I said Ron Bloor the most absurd, fretters old man who has ever existed. Absolutely true. That's like Google.
Absolutely. I used to be a couple of those, not because Google Translant messed up because I can't rebound handwriting sometimes. Right. Yeah, I've been there.
Yeah, yeah. I as well being a lefty. But even though you are a treacherous old man. Yes, absolutely.
You are still the one responsible for telling all of our new listeners what this podcast is all about. It's a heavy duty. This podcast is about H A double L O. Okay.
W W W E N. Spill's Halloween. I fucking fuck that all. Oh.
Spill's Halloween. Not like the podcast is all about. Just like what we're labeled explicit. I am Halloween.
I think I got that from the commercial as well. I love that. I don't know if this probably won't be anyone's first episode. They don't ever listen to.
But as soon as they'll be, they'll be, they'll be, they'll be, don't even make it to the commercial because they're like, what the hell is this? The other day Caleb said, you're the reason the podcast is explicit dad. And I said, yeah. Yep.
Yep. It's me. That's my fault. Sorry listeners.
That's what we are. I'm on the package. You were responsible for our kind of link is episode. Yeah, that's true.
It's true. My daughter's here so I don't need to go on the podcast. So one thing we also do on this podcast in addition to super commercials and making fun of Ron and Halloween is talk about our favorites. Yeah.
And go the exact opposite direction from Halloween and cursing favorite childhood book series. Did you guys read when you were children? Yeah. I read Larry Flint stuff and I found a provocative and entertaining.
Huh. That's not true. No. It's somewhat true.
As a child, my favorite book series, the only one I can remember anyway, was Flat Stanley. I didn't even know about that until a few years ago. That's Stanley. He's a boy who's laying in bed one night and his bulletin board falls off the wall and lands on him flattening him so that he is now this, as flat as paper and can go underneath doors and he can be flown as a guy and he can stop.
He can stop. Art thieves because he can pretend to be an art. He can't. He can't.
I didn't even know what he could do with I was flat. The kids came home and they were like, we're doing a flat Stanley and I was like, I don't know what this is. And I'm shocked that you read that as a kid because I never heard of it. Oh yeah.
Not only did I read that as a kid, I have a 45 of this. Someone else reading the story. So flat. He's done that really big deal in the heart though.
When you think about listening to that record you go, oh I love that. I used to love that. That's how I thought about the thing. I just H.A.W.W.E.
You actually think you're saying U.U. Yeah, I know it's weird. Which introduces fourth voice in the podcast. It's like a vivitch.
That was a big one. Yeah. I used to read that to the bad idea. I love that one.
And my dad and I used to go to the library and he would read the daddy book to me every time. Some daddies aren't Asians. Some daddies are like, and it's funny because my dad is not so tolerant to people that are not like him. However, this book was very special.
Yeah, it showed diversity and all that. And that's not with me all these years. Well, that's something I consider is even if he is not the most tolerant toversities, he did still let me know. Yeah.
Yeah. It was not in the 70s. Yeah. In the 70s though, Sesame Street was everywhere and it was very liberal, very hippie-ish.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, apparently not. Apparently not everybody is educated either.
That's true. That's true. That's true. He probably didn't read that.
The diagram has a lot of overlap. Right. Magic tree house. Okay.
That first was dinosaur. So I read that one. Of course you did. I read the entire stack and I read through all of the little ones and then you had the slightly bigger hardback, I read all of them.
I'm probably one of the nerdiest people to say. No, this table has a lot of nerds at it. So my parents would just drop me off with the library. You're dead.
I would read your library. You dropped me off with the library. Amazing. I would just go down to the sections.
I would just read animal books. And then I would go to other things. I remember Magic Treehouse. I remember choosing your adventure books.
Oh man, I read those. The middle school. I wish they had that. I read one called Box Card Children that I really liked, which didn't make a lot of sense.
Oh, I read them. I did read Nancy Drew and Cyclope Debrands. I just did. I read two.
I read two. But my favorite book series, when I was a kid, was one called Animorphs. I've heard of Animorphs. Now this is where the meat of this favorite question is going to come from.
Because let me explain to you just a moment of the Animorphs. There was this alien invasion of Earth with these brain parasites. That's happened. Called the Yerks.
Yeah. They were in their brain and they would control you. They would move you. They would talk for you.
But you were in there. So they were taking over the land. And there was another species called the analytes. And they were fighting the Yerks.
And one of them made it to Earth and brought this cosmic cube thing. And the analytes have the power of transformation. And so he gave it to these teenagers because obviously responsibility teenagers. And so they touched this cube and they were like six of them.
And then they got the power to assimilate animal forms by absorbing animal DNA. So they would touch an animal and they would absorb its DNA and then they had the power to transform into the animal. There's a two hour time limit. If you stay in that form for longer than two hours, you become the animal.
But the interesting thing about the transformation is your brain is in control. But the animal brain is still present. So you would be a dog and you would have dog instincts that you would have to suppress. Or you'd do dog things.
It's like the island of Dr. Morobha in reverse. Yeah. So I love that series because each book would have the cover would be a human, one of the main characters transforming the animals.
That would be a flip book on the inside as you would flip the pages. You'd see them slowly transform on one page at a time to the animal that was the theme of. And it was these teenagers that were fighting back for their country and for the world really. And they were doing it by the animals and you know me by the animals.
Oh yeah. So here is the question. You have a sable of three animals you can become. What are the animals you would choose to become?
One of them needs to be a battle form. You take when it's time to fight the bad guys. So we'll go one at a time when someone takes an animal that animals now off the table. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Alright. So just battle form is a grizzly bear. Now something else to keep in mind is you probably want an animal that can help you move very quickly across places.
But you also don't want to be super conspicuous. Right. So like grizzly bear is good for battle form. You don't want to be that like walking down the street.
Right. I'm a hit with my second. I'm a bat. Okay.
That is your treasure form. I want something that can fly. I can fly. I can stick and move.
I can do a lot of spread ratings. I can do a vampire bat. I'm essentially a vampire bat. The one from the temple of doom.
Remember when they're like look at the size of those birds and those are bats and everybody. Oh my god. Alright. Oh, I don't even know.
I was going to say a monkey because it's my go to but people like. For what purpose? I don't know. Well monkeys monkey is a fast.
They can wrap her tail around her. They can give her claws. They can really close their trees. Yeah.
Like I don't know. But that would be like a good thing. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. But that would be like really weird. Come on. You're playing with the big boys.
I know. Alright. Dad. Probably like a mountain cat.
That would be cool. That would be cool. That would be cool. That would be cool.
I'm going to go horse. Travel form that could also be used around people. I'm sharing. It's freaking smart.
It's not fair. Yeah. So I've got to speak for. Alright.
You've got a battle form. I've got a battle form. I'm going to go with a German Shepherd. Oh.
Good one. I'm just a strong dog, but you know, a dog also can illustrate humans but could he call them the battle necessary? Yeah. I'm going with a ferret.
Did you see beesmashing those birds? Awesome. So far you're a bat and a ferret. The ferrets are stealthy.
The ferrets are stealthy. Are stealthy ones. Are stealthy ones. Are stealthy ones.
Are stealthy ones? Are stealthy? Are stealthy ones as sharp teeth? I can't be stealthy?
I can't be stealthy. The ferrets are bad. If you got bat. That's a battle animal.
The ferret. I will bite the jump. You're right. Oh.
I did not. Should I change the black fillet? I don't know that thing. I can find myself these legs and bite them in the genitals.
That is uncomfortable. So can I really bear. But can I have to? I have to have to have to have a bear before I could.
Okay. Um, I go raccoon. The OG trash panda. They have the nimble fingers.
They are robbers. They can feel things. I'm going to combine your answer with once bat answering a great horn owl. Oh!
That's my fly. That's a good one. That's a good one. Damn it, Jared.
It's so smart. It's not like I've been thinking about this book series. So yeah. I've thought about this once or twice.
Alright, I'm going with a Falcon. Okay. I'm going with the Rhino. Okay.
Well, the other thing about it is the specific one that is the fastest. That's the one that I'm going with. It can die for 200 per hour. It's over 200 per hour.
I'm going with the Rhino. Okay. Yeah. Well, the other thing about Rhino is you are a tank.
Right. Nothing is really going to hurt you are not fast. And I know these really good. I can see very well.
But once I get the charging, you're done. That's true. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Once a Rhino. There are a lot of good battle forms left that we haven't chosen. There are only two left between you and I.
And so. Okay. I'm going with the Shark. I'm going with the Shark.
I thought about that one. Because I didn't think we were going to go water around. I'll take a water one also. Yeah.
So I'm just going to go with the tank with the worst amount. Yeah. Like, I'm going to say kill more people over here than anyone except for us. Yeah.
That's awesome. So water will go a little while. I have to come up with the water and we'll go deep in the ocean. Okay.
So I'm going to go deep in the ocean. I'm going to say you have to go deep in the ocean. Then I'm going to go with... Now, Ross is Shark but he didn't say it's a species of Shark.
I'll go with the Barracuda. Oh. Barracuda. It's a long, long, long, long, long, long, short.
I'm going to go with the Barracuda. You know, I don't want to go great white but let's face it. Great white is the best one. Well, the bull sharks go worse people.
But I'll go Bruce. Yeah. I'll go Bruce on this. I kill her whale.
Oh, that's good. Much worse than Shark. They didn't have people until SeaWorld started. I killed them.
And they only killed their friends. They exploded for the killer whales for the true murderers. Blackfish. Watch Blackfish.
I'm going to go Marlin or Swordfish. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're best.
Well, there's our animal stables. Oh, that's good. We would love to hear your thoughts on your like infiltrating human form, your flight form, your water form, whatever it is you think. And also of the four of us.
You know, because we love making fix sides. Right. Right. It's not that bad.
I know love when we fix sides because I never win. Because that's always fun. I never win. It's a big parrot.
The Carrot can climb up your pants like you in the general. No one likes that. Yeah, but a bat can't fly up your leg. It's more awkward.
They'll never make it up there. I don't know about your juggle. Jokes on you. I wear skinny jeans.
I don't know. But we'll probably know. Boom. What?
All right. Speaking of Boob what? It's a Ronzo. Yes.
You guys know the word, trippage? I've used it in the description for these rhymes. A trippage is like a painting that's in like three sections. So she like to get to make a piece but they're separate.
So like that's kind of my word I use for Ron's three Halloween episodes. We did the first one was on John Carpenter. The second one was on Zombies. Now we are at the third, Ronisso, that is the Halloween episode.
We're gonna finish the art. We're gonna finish the painting. I have to tell you guys something. Ron keeps trying to open his mouth.
How many times can I do this? I'll start with the question. What was the name of the Hawaiian base that the Japanese bombed, beginning our involvement in World World Harbor? That's what I'm doing to you guys today because today we are doing the third part of the ultimate wild card challenge.
Oh my god, look at it! Oh my god, look at it! There's no... Oh, oh, oh.
Let's try that again because kids are gonna rehearse in. No, you have to hear it. You have to hear it. You told me I was bringing the thunder.
I don't know if I was thundering. I was so much peace in my heart because I'm like, what did I say about Halloween? It's a great. I Pearl Harbor jobbed you guys.
Oh, I'm terrible for you to say I Pearl Harbor. I got it from the rest of the world in the 80s. Hold on, we rehearsed this. It's the wild card ultimate challenge.
Spookas, spook edition. Nope. You're gonna work? No!
No! It's like when you bring two players. One more time. One more time.
Oh my god, this is what kids are here for. The wild card, the wild card ultimate challenge. Spookas, spook edition. Oh!
Oh! Okay, everything is simplified. This is one of my favorite things. This is one of my favorite things.
Are you actually gonna give back points? No. No. The first person to answer, just blurt out what you think the answer is.
If you get it right. It's something Jeff and I don't know. You get what you're gonna do. No, because that's what the other child goes.
It's still Halloween episode. Okay. It's still Halloween. All of these questions are spook edition questions.
Okay. Dealing with things that are associated with Halloween. Before we get started, let me stop you right there. Let's tell the decades what happens after this episode.
Oh! After this episode, I will... Not you. Not you.
It's the three of us. The three of us are doing something. Oh, me! Oh, I got it.
I'm focused on the game. This is a heavy thing for me now. I'm taking the ultimate challenge very seriously. We're going to just tell them to be like, oh, I'm gonna go home and make you dance and stand with you.
I'm gonna watch the fair theme. That's not Sunday. It is Sunday. It is Sunday.
It's Wednesday, obviously. It's Wednesday. It's obviously Sunday, guys. I did forget the day of the week.
That's totally what I was going for. After this episode, the wild cards are going on a field trip. Our second ever field trip. Our second ever field trip to watch Halloween.
At the new Crown Point Theatre, which is getting rave reviews from being beautiful and wonderful. A magical fairy land of Phil. And my mom works there. And her mom works there.
My wife. Her mom. Her mom. Her mom.
Her mom. No, in the spirit of Halloween the three of us are gonna do Halloween movie. We've talked down here before and I talked Jeff you enjoy Halloween Talk about it as much as he was he just wants today. I've seen it a hundred and forty nine times more than you have no joke Well, I'm seeing it four times I mean because I'm not the biggest Halloween holiday fan or holiday fan in general, right?
But I don't love a lot of the classic horror movies because I feel like they're just they're just a lot of murders Which is what was looking for? Scary kids where we're rooting for people who are trying to overcome this evil force But for me the original the setup in that one is as good as how we get in terms of just from his perspective right seeing him Standing somewhere the threat is moving approaching absolutely. That was my Halloween was my favorite movie when I was two years old Yeah, I mean mom and dad I was like the kids have to grow up like the answer You're a guy I mean you don't have a hair for it right now Hannah and I were actually cast in the Adam's family with people we knew the other day Oh, yeah, yeah, and Jared was gonna do you know what? Other horror films don't have though this oh yeah The wild card will turn challenge Gentlemen It's so much easier to pull up the other wall card all the challenges when I'm posting this episode You should say holy god Ron really got us this Yeah, not this time it's Halloween man.
It's time for spooks and treats Definitely a trick we actually didn't tell Caleb specifically so that he wouldn't laugh at you He doesn't just talk to Jerry can they talk to a lawyer a lawyer lawyer after Yeah, yeah, so begins is gonna ask the questions I you guys are going to answer and then I'm going to extrapolate upon the answers Which is why there's only 17 questions Well, let's begin with question number, you know All right, let's move. Yes. Okay. So good.
Yeah, let's do this Whoa, what is the name of the ancient Celtic festival that Halloween is based on all those you know no? I don't know the answer to these questions But this is the name of the ancient Celtic festival. Yes. Yes.
No, that is incorrect. It is Sam Hain or Solomon Yes, I'm okay Okay, so I'm always going to be played in enough. This was celebrated by the Celtic people as far as 4000 years ago 2000 years before the birth of Christ the druids would light bonfires and wear costumes to wore off ghosts Okay, as Halloween was thought to be the veil when the veil between the worlds of the living of the dead was its thinnest on that night and this is this is Ireland is where it was Halloween is actually more Irish than St. Patrick's Day Completely how we still to this day Continue some of the traditions that were started 4000 years ago by excuse me by the Celts now in the 8th century Pope Gregory III Designated November 1st as all Saints day with the previous day being all all halloween This was the Catholic Church's attempts to bring the Celts under the umbrella of Christianity by appropriating their holidays The Celts were thought to have celebrated saughan a thousand years prior to the birth of Christ which is I had other research this morning That's a fourth of years of Mountain at the first thing I looked at on wiki It's like a thousand years before Christ or whatever, but it's four thousand years ago.
They began that Somewhere around that time the Celts in Ireland were doing their thing Lighting the bonfires and the reason they were like the bonfire of the vanities was so that the Sun would return after the winter I took the Sun away, you know for the most part. So no points are awarded to anyone but me I do like the fact that you're not just asking this question. You're actually giving a report on the Your And I don't add a lot to a lot of them the next question doesn't have much to it But it's also questions that he didn't know already. Okay, I'd like good all the answers to right now This is a lot of stuff.
It wasn't in my head. I did a lot of research on this one. That's some of them were obviously like question number three You suck. All right.
Let's go to question number two. There's a Halloween is a combination of two Catholic holidays the first being all Saints day What was the name of the second Catholic holiday which had originally been on May 13th annually all hell is Eve no 13th yeah, it used to be on May 13th Easter no no close no like Pentecost I'd be before that right right It was all Martyrs day, okay, which put innocent decided to include everybody Ever died instead of just martyrs and calling all souls day It had been expanded to include all souls including the martyrs and so those two days were combined to make up All how is Eve okay, or I'm sorry not all how is it was a Yeah, that's the one you got it the one before all right question number three. Oh, it was spooky because they died. Yeah Crazy all that happens.
I just had it make a clear screw. Okay. No dad. I can't find the scrolling reason I don't know what I'm doing.
He's old anyway What root vegetable was used in Europe to create a jack-o lantern Yeah, they're so American. It's fun. I love this question I don't want to know if you've ever seen the car turn up. They're a little spooky.
I believe it No, I think I'm like, okay I'm like bored then That's spooky as the car watermelon I did yesterday that was the awesome mist watermelon. It was amazing. It was cool Is there any of that watermelon left that'd be I know I don't know watermelon popular What's the watermelon? It's just in the Watermelon anyway Oh These are terrible creepy look up Jack O'Lanterns on Google.
They are creepy. Oh my god. Yeah Yeah, oh This is the living of the Jack O'Lantern is based on an old Irish folk tale from the mid-19th century It tells of a guy named stingy Jack a lazy yet true bludgeon if they who used across to a crucifix cross to trap Satan Question or you stingy Jack will see by the end of the episode I I Know One story says that Jack tricked Satan into climbing an apple tree and once the devil was in the apple tree Jack placed the crosses around the trunk or carved across into the bark so that Satan couldn't get down There's another version of the story that says Jack was getting chased by some villagers from whom he had stolen When he met Satan who claimed it was time for him to die What however the thief stalled his death by tempting Satan with a chance to be devil the church going villagers chasing him Jack told Satan to turn him into a coin with which he would pay for the stolen goods because because Satan could take on any shape He won later when the coin disappeared the Christian villagers would fight over who had stolen it the devil agreed to this plan He turned himself into a silver coin and jumped into Jack's wallet because Satan is smart Only to find himself next to the cross that Jack had also picked up in the village Jack had closed the wallet tight and the cross stripped the devil of his powers and so the devil was trapped in Jack's wallet So what you're saying is that any coin you may own might be safe it might be safe most coins you own are probably safe In both of the folk tales Jack let Satan go only after Satan agrees to never take his soul many years later Jack dies and Jack's life had been too sinful for him to go to heaven But Satan had promised not to take his soul and so he was barred from hell as well Jack had nowhere to go So he asked how he could see where to go as he had no life and Satan mockingly tossed him an ember from the flames of A Hades that would never burn out Jack carved out one of his turnips put the ember inside of it and began endlessly wandering the earth for a Wrestling place he became known as Jack of the lantern Oh Jack of the show is gonna be it Jack of all trades Jack of all trades The first literary reference to the Jack of the landers In the annual Hawthorne Oh I hate him so much I hate the annual Hawthorne Yes, thank you. Thank you.
I just want to make a note that in these notes It's that Jack carved out one of his turnips which were his favorite food Yeah, which word is he? No this is fiction I'm like this guy stuff perhaps who might say wait a second turn it's a food Why shit? I looked at a Facebook post today And I saw it was one of those just general ones where it was like for on quicksy or something like that on their little comment board and somebody was talking about how they They seen an accident and it was immediately my eyes were assaulted my soul died a little bit I've seen the accident on 31w I was like oh I have a student who says something like that. I will correct them.
Yes, but I'm like insulting them. Yes When I hear an adult do it like I don't want to correct them. I just want to walk away Yeah, I like do that thing from Carrie where I like my eyes automatically turn on them and like they probably catch on fire Like the cord from the prom It's not even like I'm bad. I'm so sad.
It's disappointing. It's disappointing It's like I see somebody like they missed education Oh, I don't want to insult them be like you're too I know I work with who have maybe not teaching job but who are employed by the high school Yeah, I want to come sit in my classroom, right? You want to give them a bit of a doubt, but on the other hand we all have the same learning opportunities Well, just gently teach them. I don't want to make me sad Well, let's move on to number four because it's getting depressing now.
I get to read your scroll out We did oh my gosh look I can't do it. You do this. She's teaching her father the two finger technique on a laptop Right. Oh goodness.
Oh goodness. Okay. It's a Chromebook. It's not laptop.
I don't know. I'm a laptop You just go the opposite way. I can't do this with you right now. Okay.
I can't do this with you right now What was the first major television Halloween special released for children? You're the great pumpkin children It's the great thing about Charlie Brown that I you it certainly wasn't Grinch that was the first time I was the first time I was The first time I was the first goddamn thing it's always Grinch. I was a reason you've never heard of it It's horrible. Oh dear the great pumpkin Charlie Brown root off and other specials had already been introduced as Christmas holiday program In fact in the mid 60s the commercialism for Halloween had been packed the way it is now Well, the 60s in the 60s you we still celebrated You'd have Halloween and then you'd have Thanksgiving as its own holiday They just have a way to explain these days I don't like follow this weird actually so decorations for Thanksgiving in stores It wasn't just August to December is the holiday season I've been last six months of years the holidays is how we How will you start to leave you know I'll go over to myself with the stores no always over then you start then they put out the Thanksgiving right stuff that I know Okay, but like what are Thanksgiving decorations?
I'm going to get the paper to you I'm going to get the paper to you I was growing up and we never did That's just fall Degratia We did like the hand turkeys Oh, we didn't focus a lot on like what are you thankful for? Yeah, it's not a new that way in school. We didn't celebrate Halloween Oh, thank you. It's a great gift.
I'll read it. I'll read it. I'll read it. Yeah, excuse me But thanksgiving was primarily a Halloween correct Halloween has become this gluttonous holidays about getting as much candy as you can as it should be And it was nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. Now, I'll say this it seems to me and I'm just wrong except where I've lived recently But it seems like trick or treating is kind of going on. It is.
Like there was a party last year for a hunchback and I'm like I finally live in a place where kids live near me I love trick or treat and so I stayed home I was like I was watching Stranger Things on TV and I had my bowl of candy and one kid show that one That kid got so much candy. Oh, I'm sure I got the rest of it So I wasn't that upset but I was like I live in a home in me county It wasn't convenient to walk to right. It was kind of at the top of a hill like my driver was top of a hill and It's a hill and it was a creepy look at house like no one's ever come here Then again, I have a place in the traditional In the middle of the street treating Well, traditional trick or treating I think is dying but the reason Because all of the parents go to the schools they go to the church parking lots They do the trunk or treat it ends at seven everybody's done by seven. Well, it stays out In the 20th century it evolved enormously every two decades things were changing You know the way they would do things And yeah, I was 10 I was eight I just I think I was pretty You Jared Even though I was the youngest when I stopped like I still remember it fun.
Yeah, that's good 17 no, no, I think you were like 14 I'm going to Halloween party. I'm a college student. Yeah, like there's a point in your life or how we're there Halloween lasts from January until December Yeah, I'm a college student. I don't remember celebrating Halloween.
What I didn't know I was actually not true It wasn't like a party one year it was this huge party Otherwise it was like hey, let's watch movies Okay, I've been invited to Lounge and No, she loves the practice rooms. I mean we have practice rooms for instrument. Yeah, no student lounge There's no place to get a television. I actually there's no like college party at like easy-teasey or whatever But I've been invited to frat parties and I'm not even going to I'm not going to go a lot of you.
I know so many you about and they're all in sororities all of my friends Graduate I was just very surprised but no, and then I've also been invited to another Halloween party I was invited to Allison Bart's Halloween party this year I'm probably gonna go to After we see you we're gonna go the thing is is last year I was like oh hey Nobody invited me to a Halloween party last year one in college I'm not a party person anymore. Yeah, I had a costume party and I had a step since I was eight years old Yeah, so I'm like oh god. I'm bad at this. It's like what's it was a theme like that takes a lot of commitment That's a lot work.
So I come on I'm tired and I went I went to a store and got some camel Yeah, I went to a toy store and bought like a soldier a little play kit. Yeah, it's great in black and I went to GI Joe I did a little Articulation Like not super hot said guys. I'm the real American hero. Yeah That was my like quick fix Right, I have leather pants.
So I'm going as a vampire this year cuz I've got a Those for the costume though my best costume I give a sharpie and I wrote a slit I drew a slit on the top of my head. Oh my god. That was my I don't like dress I don't like it The we dress up all the time and to me feels like work Yeah, but I'm not even his work. That's why I want to come here spirit weeks is cool And I was so disappointed cuz I was like Jared you're an actor You got this right because I don't like I own pleasure.
That is the hugest misconception When you're an actor you should have costumes. I'm like no the costumer has costume I'm an actor. I don't have jack shit. I don't do your pants on So I don't know I don't I don't like we can just waltz into a theater and take a costume from a theater and say hey I'm gonna grab this for a day No, you don't do that.
I was in a dressing up is on occasion. I wear a suit and tie like right I was right Friday. I wore suit and tie Saturday because it was opening out for my for your town I'm like show the kids how much it meant to me. Right.
They work they had done And so yeah, no, we need to mention you're in town at the end of the show, but let's move on so that oh also Yeah, if you guys if you guys have ever seen it's a great pumpkin Charlie Brown Yeah, Charlie Brown always gets a rock ghost He always gets the rock. I got this I got this I got a rock according to peanuts creative So according to peanuts greater Charles Charles Schultz after the first airing of it's a great pumpkin Charlie Brown He received numerous bags and boxes of candy specifically address just for Charlie Brown. Yeah, I love Charlie Brown I love you So Charlie Brown is you Yeah So me Marcia's Marcy Marcia Like we've always seen how we all see how Patty dress you look like I did yesterday of all three pride like that is true Mackenzie came home and sat down and I said good god your game Like lesbian right there Fine, there's there's several to go through here what Washington Irving character story created in 1820 is commonly affiliated with Halloween And Yes, and has been played by Jeff Goldblum will Rogers Bing Crosby Johnny Depp. Okay.
Yeah Yeah, I was really the character I wanted mainly because he's been played by somebody The most recognized rendition of this story would be 10 Film with Johnny Depp, which is awesome And in fact Jeff and I talk about soundtracks a lot and that one is fantastic. It's great I listen that one quite the the Disney version of the story Which is probably the second most well-known if not the first for some people which played as the adventures of Ichabod and Toad in 1949 It was group those two films were grouped together and released into the theaters That was my first introduction to the story in elementary school We would watch it yearly on one of the real to real projectors. Oh, and it's only half an hour long Did you want to see the city hall of TV show? I watched the first three episodes I Think of John The jiff gold one I'm sure it's really good the problem is when you compare it to the Tim Burton version or the cartoon version It's everything is gonna fall short after that the story is gonna fall short and if you've never read the story I recommend it and honestly Washington Irving really for writing an 1820 he wrote in an accessible style I remember reading I remember reading trying to read Henry James's turn of the screw Which is one of the best go stories ever written I got to about page 20 and I said I don't understand this language Yeah, he was writing in such a floral language that I had trouble translating it in my head And so I got gave up on turn of the screw I tried to read it twice and just couldn't you know what's that reading out?
Does it yes? I should have read it to you guys in your career when I had a read Nathaniel Hawthorne Oh God, I would get through it by by reading out loud and then breathing when there weren't Thomas because there were never Thomas and a sentence took an entire page the crazy thing about He did write supernatural stories. He did write dark stories like House of the Seven Gables and stuff like that There's so goddamn board nobody ever wants to read them. No, I would I would have to like stand out loud Yeah, which I've never seen one of them just because you know Do me more was in the last uh who's in the scarlet letter movie?
That was the last big Hollywood But like here's the thing I feel like what scarlet letter has to say handmaid's tail says better. Yeah Is it the same kind of thing? It's not exactly the same thing like I don't know I just in terms of like female empowerment Oh, yeah, okay. Tell us about the ostracization.
Yeah, I feel like a real word ostracization I think what is the other woman being ostracized? Yeah, Charlotte letter with that I actually really enjoyed the story when I talked about it But I hate it. I really read the cliff notes of that. It was a no be with you know I never finished a book in high school.
I read most of them I never actually know I read most of them, but I never finished any of them which is a miracle But anyway, um I would write full lessee on them too, but no they were just so Charlotte letter was so boring to me However, the next day we would go in and we would talk about it as a class and I would get so into what we were saying But like when I read it was horrible. Yeah, I like an accessible writer. Sure. We've got some which we talked about She's really accessible Carson the color is accessible Stephen King is who he is because he writes for people Not the potentials Larry Lee he writes for everybody I think are approachable, but yeah, that's what I was like watching her Nerving wrote in an accessible manner.
He wrote hard. So they're very very shelly I was backstage in for your in town and the kids are excited crucible Oh, yeah, that shocked me. That was right. They just arrived right.
I think in sophomores read it I and I took honor classes and for some reason I think you're a junior Yeah, it's two years. Okay. Well, I because I guess I was in like AP classes We read different books and that always made me sad because I didn't get to read shit I'm walking bird. I didn't get to read the crucial.
Okay, I can get to read any of those and that bummed me out All right, let's move on to the next part speaking of this actually what has something to do with what we were just talking about I hope you're getting another point once this game. Well, that's just as thanks me Kenji No, because Jared has all the points that I have no points you want to get a good one I'm gonna give you the about crazy. Listen. I choose the winner My wife You copy other goodness of her heart Joe is my favorite Okay, what colonial religious group for Kate Halloween in the northern colony yours Yes The southern colony It was a Puritans being mainly in the northern colonies that completely forbade Halloween and they also perforbade Christmas for that Well, and I'm gonna get why here in a second as Protestantism now I'm on you at the time of this it was less than 200 years old Catholicism I've been the standard Christian religion Protestantism had only been around for a little while and so all things even remotely connected to Catholicism or paganism Or Sarah Completely rejected and I talk about the witch a lot But that's actually part of it they get kicked out from the from the little fort because the father believes that they're not being religious enough Yeah, the Puritans are not being religious enough and sticking to the gospel enough and they're like oh, yeah, you can leave Yeah, go out with the witches.
How about that? Yeah, so Halloween was being viewed as being rooted in both paganism and Catholicism Instead the pure of Halloween the Puritans gave us the Salem witch trials Yeah, which ironically contributed to the act of witchcraft and how it was viewed in modern times Even more ironic than that is that on October 31st 1517 Luther wrote the 95 thesis. That's that's when he did it on That's it holds. Yeah, he said here you go fellas.
This is what I think of you Wow interesting facts. Yeah, yeah, actually there are a very tiny number of horror movies that take place in the Colonies one of them is eyes of fire, which is a very good movie that didn't do very well at the box office Greatfully the witch is another one. That's that's become one of my favorite. I'm so fond of all the time.
I love it It was a beautiful movie good for her good for her. There's a meme. There's a meme that said Okay, no, I'm away good for her I'm just for the people who have seen the witch for the people passing the witch The meme is the words on top of it are like me at the end of the witch and then the bottom is the picture of the mom from Arrested development going good for her I can't recommend it enough No, it's not very funny movie. Oh, this is so charming.
What a charming how it's not charming. It's very slow It's very serious. It's very attention Have you guys seen a quiet place? No, it's much like this suspense is palpable in both the witch not as much so in the quiet French theatrical tradition greatly contributed to the modern notion of haunted houses Or something No College This theatrical tradition became popular in the late 18th century in France and England the grand gingole presented shows that embraced the Macabre using lanterns and shadows to tell tear terrifying stories They went further than that though in staged murders fake murders in front of the audience.
It was very gruesome very bloody That is like it was very they would present very perverse ideas to the audience of course they aim up So it's like what the vampires were doing and I'm interviewing the vampire But is it you need to go to tour? Yes, that's the grand gingole. They were actually they were actually doing it Yeah, I actually do but you see something like a vampire sucking The grand gingole theater And then later on oh Gary did I hope Gary did to Gary. I'm sick.
Yeah, during the Great Depression people would create haunted house I'm doing airquake I'm okay google it where I regard so mad at Gary yeah They find out if they did go So good yeah It was an evolution of course the grand gingole really inspired it and then in the 20s people would start putting haunted houses in the Garage's or basement and they would come and look and and see what they had done It wasn't until the 50s that you started seeing haunted houses being used to raise funds for various charities the JC's were the biggest one of these But before then in 1957 in San Mateo, California The funds received from doing a haunted house were given to a local children's home the children's health home And that's when it really started becoming haunted house their for charity You would see the JC's raising funds were the optimists club around here They often do when I was a kid the optimist club did it you didn't see professional haunted houses really till the 70s Although in the 60s they really began to take off not as professional ventures But the idea of the haunted house really caught on from state to state And of course the most iconic haunted house was built in 1969 in Anaheim, California at Disneyland Walt Disney Walt Disney loved the thought of that and he put on a great little show with his haunted house in 1972 the Christian hell house was As a response to these haunted houses Jerry Jerry the horse fall well was was the guy who uh, no Jerry fall well rape sources fuck that guy No, I'm stating it right now is a fact strong as a fact. I've seen him do it. Yeah, so that's that's the end of that one Jerry fall Well, let's move on to the next question. I don't even know how to respond to that.
I'm an either move on Okay, what is the name of the British holiday taking place on November 5th that extended the Halloween season by holding bonfires publicly begging for treats and I Faux day that is correct Jared This is an annual commemoration observed on the 5th of November primarily in the United Kingdom remember remember the 5th of November That's right. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgotten. Hey Jerry Its history begins with the events of 5th of November 1605 when Guy Fox I remember a gunpowder plot was arrested while guarding explosives the plotters had placed beneath the House of Wars the wording is messed up This is with you. It's not my fault copy paste guys Celebrating the fact that King James the first had survived the attempt on his life People lit bonfires around London and months later the introduction of the observance of 5th November act enforced an annual public day of Thanksgiving for the plot's failure How messed up is that kind of the way the holiday was originally called Thanksgiving?
And when brought to America was known as Pope's Day It was brought to us by the Irish who migrated to America in great numbers during the potato famine potato I believe it's pronounced the top of the potato potato. I think it's potato tomato tomato Chicago Chicago Chikatita Listening to the Santa boys fire version up and I'm not even kidding I dreamed a dream by habit and they do a rendition of Chikatita By having a beautiful it's so pretty You know boys wires moving on Amazing so I just want to say for anyone who's a first time listener. This is not the general way our podcast goes Isn't it maybe not we don't know there's a narrative in here more than any other ultimate challenge. Oh, yeah That is true.
There's there's there's more going on here than And we have this No, we have no question nine out of how many How many cases of death or series injury have been attributed to razor blades and apples or poison candy zero the answer is zero We'll both give a point for that there has been one notable case of an attempted poisoning in Houston in 1974 I said attempted It was a boy dad was trying to was he trying to kill his kid or his wife and he put like drink clean or something in there And he blamed it on the Calwing candy poison. Yes 1974 in Houston, Texas Ronald O'Brien had taken a large insurance policy out on his children interesting and gave his son Timothy his daughter And three other children pixie sticks that were laced with cyanide Timothy was the only one who ate the pixie stick and he died later that he would have died when questioned none of the other homes in the Community had given out pixie sticks he was the only one who even had them So O'Brien was tried and convicted and died by lethal injection in 1980 I Absorb it that way Go that needs to be murder. No, that guy needs punishment to be on what the normal capital punishment would be all right Let's go What was the name given to the night of October 30th when young people were known to have committed minor pranks and mild van vandalism? It's what some people call Halloween.
No trick or tree. No, it's not all Halloween no, no, that's not the answer. It is called Halloween. It's the it's October 30th.
It's the night I know that answer this one. Yeah, did you know it before you read it? Yes, I did. It's Devil's Night Devil's Night back in the day I'm not gonna I'm gonna go into what Devil's Night became known as later But in the in the 20s in the 1910s 20s there were a lot of pranks going on They were pulling a lot of very innocent pranks and stuff like that The the community said how can we get these kids to stop pulling these pranks on Halloween?
And they decided to start letting them go around with the tradition of being in masks and asking for candy and that was the City or it became known in a specific city. I'm gonna get to that right here Devil's Night is noted to have really started taking place around the early of the 40s It really came to a head became popular in the 70s between the 1970s and the 90s when serious vandalism and arson began taking place in Detroit No, that's what the episode of come on? And the surrounding areas of course The normal pranks of soaping windows egging houses and paper in front lawns gave way to breaking windows and setting fire to buildings Especially as you know Detroit has been Decreted for many years a lot of abandoned buildings and they would just start burning them down Willie Millie throughout the city on October 30th The damage seemed to have peaked around 1984 when over 800 fires in the city were attributed to arson Devil's Night arson in 1995 Detroit Mayor Dennis Archer stated that arson would no longer be tolerated and officials created angels night in which citizens would patrol areas for Devil Night activities and put a star to it For the purge um as many as 50,000 volunteers in both the inner city and the suburbs volunteer to ensure that that damage was 800 fires how many kids are involved in that that's a lot of it so you have to have a great I'm not saying it's impressive. I'm just Volunteer to be like protecting that city.
It's really yeah. Yeah, I really need to watch that I know that's a good story about how the community rises above and kind of fixes one of these problems I have I have like images of the criminal minds episode in my head right now. They're all about a rooster Okay until John Carpenter's 1978 master piece Halloween was released no film had used the holiday as a main plot device Name three actors who have portrayed Michael Myers and you have a huge selection of people who have played this character none No, well, he did wear the mask in one scene and the original Halloween accounts accounts does it count? Well, he did wear it he wore it in one scene like five different people in the original Halloween Nick Castle wore it more than anybody else Is he the face?
Oh, that's Tony Moran who he that was his thing. I think it was 21 at the time. We know Tony We talked about only Tony Moran because we've talked to Tony right right Nick Castle He went on to to direct movies like for every young he in the 90s He became a fairly well-known director back in the day But John Carpenter asked him to wear the mask and Nick Castle said I'm not an actor I'm poor on camera and John Carpenter said it's the way you move just put on the mask move around and of course Nick Castle The way he moved in that movie is largely so I made my myself scary in that it was very smooth I don't remember whether he was a dancer with a reading that he was a dancer or not But he does move very live, you know, he moves very well I am too and Nick Castle actually tutored the guy who's now playing Mike Myers And I think Nick Castle and at least one scene plays Michael Myers again in this one But the name of the actors is Nick Castle Tony Moran Nick knackers are dick work. Oh, yeah, you say You're the listeners I just set him on fire with my mind.
Yeah, thank you dick warlock Excuse me, let's think about that I can't add anything to it's really nice guy Richard Richard Warlock George Wilbur Radler Christopher Durand Tyler Maine dig fair Crush on each other That they have coke together it was so cute. They were sitting at a little table little children He had a crush on Mackenzie Don Shanks chase right back. Yeah, and James Jude Courtney who plays him in the In the one we're gonna see today don't be sad. All right Follow up to the previous question There are a few Halloween the movie questions in here because it's so ingrained with Halloween, you know Okay, well holiday themed horror film to John Carpenter work on as a production assistant four years prior to Halloween and Featuring sinister phone calls and the first person point of view of the murderer.
We've been over this on the show before I Was the thing Halloween one and two I almost asked what movies were playing Black Christmas I love that movie directed by It is it's so good Clark would later go on to direct porkies and the Christmas story and the in the early 80s black Christmas introduced the first person Point of view of the killer largely he before even before when a stranger calls the killer in the house the phone calls are coming from In the house and so you had the whole thing of the cop calling the house and go on I just want you to hang up the phone and get out of the house She's like what's going on? He's like just listen to me get out of the house the calls are coming from inside that It's a great moment. Yeah, Christmas is so A scary book when I was a kid that was a good that would make sure it's black Christmas is so good I really can't recommend it. It's not exploitative.
I mean it is you know, it's cool. It's a great, but it rises above that Yeah, it's very original Bob Clark introduces several of the things that we know now is slasher movie tropes And so I didn't leave our partner. He was approached to direct Halloween. It wasn't his big idea to do it So but in the introduction of this is not black Christmas who's to say he didn't get first person point of view and stuff like that And their phone calls and how Well, the one thing they're not from Michael Myers though, right?
Right. Right. Right. Just creeping along as Michael Myers.
From the beginning well the beautiful thing is and Deborah Hill talked about this the late Deborah Hill who produced in which on carpenter several movies but Deborah Hill would talk about from the very beginning of the movie You're the murderer. You don't know whose hand it is picking up the knife. You don't know anything All you know is that you are the first person that's seeing this horrible murder in front of you And then within five minutes unmasked to see a child a six-year-old child and that's horrifying in 1970 You didn't see anything like that before that imagine being like the parents of the kids chosen Michael Myers We need your son. He looks lifeless and murder right right your son has a blank dead face Yeah, he might murder son.
All right, let's move. Okay. Um, oh During the 15th century people would visit houses and sing under windows to celebrate all Hallo tide all Hallo tide It's smushed together in order to obtain what treat I know but I was yeah What treat would be back in the 1500s what treat were they were they looking to receive by by dressing up in costume and singing under windows Blumblig yes, that is absolutely correct. Jeff apples.
This one's really tough. Yes, soul case The bills don't exist what no those don't exist anymore Snack on soul cakes or the film the practice was known as sewing and was practiced by both children and adults back then No, they were dressing costume to blend in with the spirits so that the spirits would leave them alone Which is the art tradition of being a costume so you can blend it with the spirit blood on my door So that's smart smart. I was the firstborn Jewish child. I don't know why I'm here, but You know while this practice continued it's largely believed that this was the inspiration for what would become known as trick or treating Communities would begin the practice to practice of trick or treating to keep children occupied on Halloween keeping them away from this If we've already gone over it is largely acknowledged that trick or treating as we know began in 1920s And of course still resumes today some lot It's down and down a lot which is a little depressed.
They're so afraid. They are scared. Yeah, I mean there's reason for it When I was a kid my mom, you know, we lived in rural righty bill There's no sidewalks or anything But my mom would drive on the same road that I live in on 220 my mom would take me from house to house Only people she knew that every time you walk on a walk See I always envy kids that live in suburbs because I thought it must be cool to walk from house to house on Halloween Jeff knows where I'm coming from. You came from Yeah, we live on a farm wheel we only went trick or treating to the house with my parents friends Yeah, they were right us there.
We go up trick or treat and unfortunately my mom has lived in writing bill since the 1940s So she knew everybody yeah lived on that particular road and we would go to other places, but only people we knew And but it was great. It was wonderful when I was little Leanne used to make it in a bench like I would go I would go trick or treating She would like she would like get us all in the car and then we would go scope out neighborhoods That looks like they like had the best house and then she would park it out. All right. We're getting running out of time We have three more questions go let's go.
Okay, where are we 14 number 14? Okay name for General Mills Monster Cereals Can't talk you look Frank and Barry who Barry this is why I asked for four I know and These have actually been mentioned on the show before two Oh, yeah, I love them. It's probably like there's a probably a mommy one There's probably a bear wolf one but you are correct on both counts. No one's worried It's it's a Count Chocula Frank and Barry Booberry fruit brute and yummy mommy freaking young Yummy mommy is the greatest dropping of the ball.
I've ever seen a serial company go through it. Oh, they were The other one of the other brute when I said wolf one that's where bullet Yes, just like Fruit brute and yummy mommy were discontinued in 1982 in 1990 Well now you had a second show both were reintroduced in 2013 and discontinued in 2014 I will answer your why here in a minute because I have my own opinions about this fruit brute which funny enough can be seen being eaten by Eric Solts's character Lance in Pulp Fiction. He's eaten a little while. It was discontinued.
It wasn't even around then you know in 1994 Yeah, yeah Extra well, I'm gonna get to what these flavors are Fruit brute with the werewolf on the box was originally fruit flavored cereal with lime flavored marshmallow. That sounds good to me Weird to me when it was reintroduced though. They changed it to a cherry flavored cereal with just regular marshmallows Yummy mommy was originally fruit flavored cereal with vanilla flavored marshmallows or as I like to call it When it was reintroduced it was orange cream cereal with plain marshmallow you say oh now Dream sickle flavor and those things together extreme sickle. I was excited as you were yeah, and then I tried it It was the most boring goddamn cereal I ever had a lot of really careful marshmallows cereals.
I don't know I love marshmallows here's the thing though. I like raisin bran. That's my fault. I like frosted mini-weeds So when I say yummy mommy is boring, I like great not okay And yummy mommy is boring What should yummy mommy have been cinnamon?
No, it should have been a cinnamon cereal Here's why I think hot so you think like no I was crunching that kind of thing with the marshmallow because the brown sand sort of flavor And you could have marketed that and it would have been a cool looking money Yeah, I'm in the background and sort of does it say why they bother trying to bring them back? No, I think just yeah, but they didn't work the first time and they didn't work well, you know how often do you see an ad for monster cereal though? It's not a chocolate table for bits. It's where you're in it.
Yeah, I thought there's only one you see on it It's don't work. It's because people know we just wait and I saw the cereal wait and when we see them We buy all of them. Yeah, I was really excited about trying yummy mommy I heard of it for years and when they released it and it was amazingly disappointed at how boring the cereal was awful Okay, so yeah, we're at your team. We'll have really good.